so somewhat of a loaded question, but basically i see a lot of users agree that the dragon market is way too saturated at this point. While not a bad thing on it's own, a lot of people are frustrated about not being able to sell dergs. I see people trying to encourage more people to exalt, but that only gets us so far. Along with this, I'm seeing a number of users bringing up the fact that dom battles aren't happening as much as they used to because the incentive has all been lost or it's just not profitable/worth it anymore.
I think the HD helped, since people can now store dragons they don't want to get rid of while clearing more lair space, but there are still currently 90169 (ha) dergs on the AH looking for homes! That's,,,, a lot!!
SO I'm curious: do you have an idea of what could be implemented to help get more dragons out of the current pool? Fixes for the exaltation mechanic? New mechanics entirely? Site-wide exalt events? Or is there another idea you think could help the economy without sacrificing dragons? Or do you think there's no need to change anything?
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[quote name="Herico" date="2019-05-15 13:41:37" ]
Thanos snap update. Half of all dragons are exalted.
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[quote name="neonhorns" date="2019-05-15 13:59:12" ]
I think making exaltation more appealing might help. For example, exalting might give you a really rare chance of getting a very rare item (something of an egg's worth?) or maybe a set amount of exalts (for example, each thousand) would give you said item. That would be a cursed fun way to introduce ancients: the deity rewards you with a scroll or an egg of the ancient breed for your service. That exact idea is probably terrible, but I'm making it up as I go.
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[quote name="Tharn" date="2019-05-15 14:19:42" ]
Does it really need to be fixed, though? Cheap dragons are a good thing imo. Even so, I think a cool incentive for moving dragons is more varied incentives for exalting. Folks above have already mentioned better dom bonuses, but another idea I've seen around is basically like an "exalt shop" where, instead of treasure, you can cash in exalts for points which can be spent at a unique shop. It could sell stuff like alchemy components, unhatched eggs, unique apparel/genes etc, maybe even have a few rare items that cycle on a weekly basis. Not only would it encourage people to exalt more, it would be an indirect treasure sink, since instead of generating raw treasure, many exalts would be traded directly for items instead.
Another cool incentive could be gaining minor weekly bonuses based on how many dragons you exalt, kind of like a mini dom bonus just for your account, so that even if you don't get 1st place you're still rewarded for your effort. They'd have to be different from actual dom bonuses though so that getting 1st place still has meaning; stuff like making Baldwin recipes take 5-10% less time, or a 20-30% increased chance of finding rare items from gathering/coli, or increasing the tiny amount of gems/treasure you get at rollover, etc. I think they might actually have to put a soft cap on how many points/bonuses you can gain in a week though, since the gains for people who receive dragons for Dom raffles and the like would be absurd LOL.
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so somewhat of a loaded question, but basically i see a lot of users agree that the dragon market is way too saturated at this point. While not a bad thing on it's own, a lot of people are frustrated about not being able to sell dergs. I see people trying to encourage more people to exalt, but that only gets us so far. Along with this, I'm seeing a number of users bringing up the fact that dom battles aren't happening as much as they used to because the incentive has all been lost or it's just not profitable/worth it anymore.
I think the HD helped, since people can now store dragons they don't want to get rid of while clearing more lair space, but there are still currently 90169 (ha) dergs on the AH looking for homes! That's,,,, a lot!!
SO I'm curious: do you have an idea of what could be implemented to help get more dragons out of the current pool? Fixes for the exaltation mechanic? New mechanics entirely? Site-wide exalt events? Or is there another idea you think could help the economy without sacrificing dragons? Or do you think there's no need to change anything?
Herico wrote on 2019-05-15 13:41:37:
Thanos snap update. Half of all dragons are exalted.
neonhorns wrote on 2019-05-15 13:59:12:
I think making exaltation more appealing might help. For example, exalting might give you a really rare chance of getting a very rare item (something of an egg's worth?) or maybe a set amount of exalts (for example, each thousand) would give you said item. That would be a cursed fun way to introduce ancients: the deity rewards you with a scroll or an egg of the ancient breed for your service. That exact idea is probably terrible, but I'm making it up as I go.
Tharn wrote on 2019-05-15 14:19:42:
Does it really need to be fixed, though? Cheap dragons are a good thing imo. Even so, I think a cool incentive for moving dragons is more varied incentives for exalting. Folks above have already mentioned better dom bonuses, but another idea I've seen around is basically like an "exalt shop" where, instead of treasure, you can cash in exalts for points which can be spent at a unique shop. It could sell stuff like alchemy components, unhatched eggs, unique apparel/genes etc, maybe even have a few rare items that cycle on a weekly basis. Not only would it encourage people to exalt more, it would be an indirect treasure sink, since instead of generating raw treasure, many exalts would be traded directly for items instead.
Another cool incentive could be gaining minor weekly bonuses based on how many dragons you exalt, kind of like a mini dom bonus just for your account, so that even if you don't get 1st place you're still rewarded for your effort. They'd have to be different from actual dom bonuses though so that getting 1st place still has meaning; stuff like making Baldwin recipes take 5-10% less time, or a 20-30% increased chance of finding rare items from gathering/coli, or increasing the tiny amount of gems/treasure you get at rollover, etc. I think they might actually have to put a soft cap on how many points/bonuses you can gain in a week though, since the gains for people who receive dragons for Dom raffles and the like would be absurd LOL.
longer breeding cooldowns would both help, and absolutely tick off the player base.
a Gem marketplace item to "sterilize" a dragon would probably go over well with lore-based players who don't want to breed certain dragons of theirs.
the option to cancel a nest, without resetting the cooldown, would help a little (would most likely be used for wegg nests or "i didn't mean to breed this pair" dragons)
minor additional Weekly incentives for Dominance battles (just enough to make dom battles fresh and fun again), or occasional special event items for winning one of the places in Dominance. occasional to allow flights to re-coup funds in between (NOTN, would be an awesome time to do this as it's a non-elemental festival, and combined with Galore's Glorious gifts would mean just the active players of the winning flights would get the prizes)
longer breeding cooldowns would both help, and absolutely tick off the player base.
a Gem marketplace item to "sterilize" a dragon would probably go over well with lore-based players who don't want to breed certain dragons of theirs.
the option to cancel a nest, without resetting the cooldown, would help a little (would most likely be used for wegg nests or "i didn't mean to breed this pair" dragons)
minor additional Weekly incentives for Dominance battles (just enough to make dom battles fresh and fun again), or occasional special event items for winning one of the places in Dominance. occasional to allow flights to re-coup funds in between (NOTN, would be an awesome time to do this as it's a non-elemental festival, and combined with Galore's Glorious gifts would mean just the active players of the winning flights would get the prizes)
yeah that's about all i can think of RN
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:D We don't think anything needs majorly fixing. The price of dragons is mostly stable and predictable and has been for several years. We love not having to spend loads of money on pretty dragons.
But more to the exalting mechanics would be cool. Having some individual things to work towards would encourage us to exalt more since Wind doesn't push very often :D
:D We don't think anything needs majorly fixing. The price of dragons is mostly stable and predictable and has been for several years. We love not having to spend loads of money on pretty dragons.
But more to the exalting mechanics would be cool. Having some individual things to work towards would encourage us to exalt more since Wind doesn't push very often :D
The dragon market works as intended. There's supposed to be plenty to exalt. Don't worry about it.
Thanos snap update. Half of all dragons are exalted.
The dragon market isn't too bad, but I do strongly believe Flight Rising would possibly benefit from more features to purge excess dragons - I can't imagine all of these active dragons are doing the servers themselves justice, and I do agree that the market could do with a little push in the right direction for profit breeders.
One option would be to have a separate search option for fodder/permas, but that, unfortunately, would likely cause more problems that it would solve.
Ultimately, more rewards for exalting or more ways to rid of dragons.
The dragon market isn't too bad, but I do strongly believe Flight Rising would possibly benefit from more features to purge excess dragons - I can't imagine all of these active dragons are doing the servers themselves justice, and I do agree that the market could do with a little push in the right direction for profit breeders.
One option would be to have a separate search option for fodder/permas, but that, unfortunately, would likely cause more problems that it would solve.
Ultimately, more rewards for exalting or more ways to rid of dragons.
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Thanos snap update. Half of all dragons are exalted.
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Thanos snap update. Half of all dragons are exalted.
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[quote name="Herico" date="2019-05-15 13:41:37" ]
Thanos snap update. Half of all dragons are exalted.
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This was honestly my first thought. Maybe have more discretion with the whole 50% thing though
Thanos snap update. Half of all dragons are exalted.
I think making exaltation more appealing might help. For example, exalting might give you a really rare chance of getting a very rare item (something of an egg's worth?) or maybe a set amount of exalts (for example, each thousand) would give you said item. That would be a cursed fun way to introduce ancients: the deity rewards you with a scroll or an egg of the ancient breed for your service. That exact idea is probably terrible, but I'm making it up as I go.
Anyways, yeah, longer breeding cooldowns/limited breeding, exalting becoming even more appealing and stuff like that would help c:
I think making exaltation more appealing might help. For example, exalting might give you a really rare chance of getting a very rare item (something of an egg's worth?) or maybe a set amount of exalts (for example, each thousand) would give you said item. That would be a cursed fun way to introduce ancients: the deity rewards you with a scroll or an egg of the ancient breed for your service. That exact idea is probably terrible, but I'm making it up as I go.
Anyways, yeah, longer breeding cooldowns/limited breeding, exalting becoming even more appealing and stuff like that would help c:
