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Not sure if this has been brought up before, I checked through the past few pages and the Suggestions Compilation and didn't see anything. So, same-sex breedings. Whether for personal lore reasons, color reasons, whatever, there has been a moment when all of us has gone "dangit, why can't we breed gay dragons??" (Okay, maybe not. Doesn't matter.) "But Shadow, that's not how breeding works! You need a boy and a girl!" First off, this isn't reality. Second, magic! Seriously. Magic. This is my girl Furcifer: [center][url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=14545257] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/350/145453/14545257_350.png[/img] [/url] [size=1]No I'm totally not just showing off my dragons[/size][/center] Her parents are a Nocturne (5.08 M) and a Ridgeback (16.43 M). She's three times his size, so traditional breeding isn't going to work well. And we won't even discuss Imperial/Fae breedings. I know someone has mentioned breeding by magic before, but I can't remember who. Basically two dragons meet up and use their magic to create an egg. Extra magic is drawn from the magic around them, which is why the hatchlings have the element of the lair, rather than an element of the parent(s). Magic is not gender based, so if a male and female can breed by magic, so can a male/male or female/female. As for the site mechanics, they would stay largely the same. The Lineage box doesn't list father and mother, so it would look no different. On the nesting page instead of Father/Mother it would say Parent 1/Parent 2 and would list all the dragons available to breed. After breeding everything would stay the same, incubating/hatching/cooldown. Nest sizes would remain the same as well, 4 egg for matching breeds, 5 for mixed. I think that's it for now. Thoughts?

It's been brought up many times and every time its been no

you cant breed gay dragons cause you cant even breed gay people, im sorry :/ its life

im Bi, my girlfriend is pan, but if we want a baby, we need a donor, and im cool with it

- but thats just my opinion. Generally the consensus is it's too game breaking

@Shadowkat

I believe that the admins have said that in order to have same sex breeding it would require a complete rewrite of the site itself.

That said, sorry, no support. Not only does it only make sense in a 'magical' sort of way that we don't really have in FR, but it would also harm the economy as dragons that right now cannot be bred together would suddenly be able to start breeding. It would pretty much double the number of dragons an individual dragon could be bred with...

No support as this is biologically impossible, and a headcanon that dragons use magic to create eggs doesn't automatically mean you can make it canon. If you want gay dragons to breed, use the info box to say that hey, this dragon is x gender.

(Also casually agrees with what Cyrsei said about it being game-breaking.)

No support, if you for example have two males with a colour range you want, find a female with a close colour range to the males and use that instead. If you want the feature for lore reasons,you can headcanon that your dragon is a different gender or sex than what it actually is. I have several female dragons I headcanon as male.

@Serria

One of the problems is the 'magic' requires somethign already there. IE, perhaps the female dragon lays the eggs, and the male then magically fertilizes them, which negates size differences in dragons, but the magic already requires viable eggs to be there, which needs a female, and it requires viable sperm, which requires a male dragon. Since two males cannot create an egg, they would need an egg donor for that, and two females cannot create sperm, they need a donor for that as well, I don't think that the magic would have anything to work with to create a hatchable egg from two parents of the same sex.

It could be the same thing with gene scrolls. We are just given 'magic' but that could mean that the genes are already present in the dragons, but the magic is required to 'express' them in an adult dragon. IE, a dragon with no tiger gene would not be able to have a gene scroll of tiger used on them. (since there aren't any dragons a tiger scroll can't be used on, no way to test that theory) The same theory could be held for breed changes. Yes, it is magic, but the dragon breeds are so mixed that the magic simply requires the gene for that breed to be present, but not expressed, and then it 'copies' the gene over the other breed genes. It doesn't make something out of nothing, it just enhances/changes what is already there.

As for the boon of fertility, the Admins have said that eggs require magic to hatch, which is why they cannot be neutral element nor have differing eyes from their clan's flight if they were hatched in the flight's nests, but the boon could simply be allowing more magic to seep into the eggs, thus allowing it to get ready faster than normal. It isn't 'making' the stuff in the egg, it is already there, it is just enhancing what is there and allowing the process to be sped up.

I don't support mainly because this would make breeding a bit too easy. Currently, a dragon is only limited from breeding with the same sex and close family (5 generations.) If dragons of the same sex could breed, the limit would only be with family. In a breeding site, that kind of thing is bad. There needs to be something to limit breeding. If there were other restrictions in place I'd say go for it, but I think at this point it'd be gamebreaking.

[quote name="Drakel" date=2015-12-16 19:40:13] I don't support mainly because this would make breeding a bit too easy. Currently, a dragon is only limited from breeding with the same sex and close family (5 generations.) If dragons of the same sex could breed, the limit would only be with family. In a breeding site, that kind of thing is bad. There needs to be something to limit breeding. If there were other restrictions in place I'd say go for it, but I think at this point it'd be gamebreaking. [/quote] To add on to this, most of the sites I see mentioned that have same sex breeding I think also have 'pet death' in place where the pets/animals/whatever will eventually either die or not be able to breed after a while. FR doesn't have either of those which means that the dragons that were first created by the first user (if said user were still active) could still breed until the site shuts down far far in the future. There is nothing stopping it except for players voluntarily not breeding their dragons. This is one more reason why I don't support same sex breeding as it would just start pouring too many dragons into the market for it to be able to bear.