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TOPIC | Exalt Points (Not a Shop)
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First off, this is mainly a response to Sylvandyr's thread Dom - Average active exalters over time, but I feel it's too off topic, and should be its own thread.

I do think this idea would work best with Sylvandyr's idea compared to how dom is currently calculated.


To combat the negativity towards casual exalters (and free loaders), I think we could have a point system (not a shop) for exalted dragons/dom.

For each dragon you exalt, you get the normal payout and dom bonus, but you also get one point. It doesn't matter if the dragon is lvl 1 or 25, you still get 1 point.

To use these points, you go to the dom page, and there would be a button to use X of the points you have (you don't need to use all of them).

These would basically function as exalting another lvl 1 dragon from your account.

To prevent players from trying to snipe dom at the last minute before rollover, the points you use will be applied next rollover (so I use my points Tuesday, they'll be applied on Wednesday), or applied at the start of the next week could also work. This is to give other flights a chance to respond.


How this would help is that a player who exalts 1 dragon can still apply 1 point, or save it for another dom, so there's a bit less reason to be upset with them (especially since the points will normally be stockpiled for pushed).

Problems this would cause is players stockpiling for a long time suddenly using all their points, and other flights not being able to catch them. I personally don't think this would be a huge issue since dom heavy/savvy flights are already hard to catch.


EDIT:
I wasn't as clear as I meant to be...

The current dom system and points would not change. If you exalt a lvl 6 dragon, you get the normal payout and dom bonus, but you will get an additional point you can spend immediately or later on.

This is an addition to dom, not a replacement.

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The dom bonus these add would still be affected by the number of active players per flight. 500 points spent in Earth would have a bigger impact than 500 point spent in Shadow.
First off, this is mainly a response to Sylvandyr's thread Dom - Average active exalters over time, but I feel it's too off topic, and should be its own thread.

I do think this idea would work best with Sylvandyr's idea compared to how dom is currently calculated.


To combat the negativity towards casual exalters (and free loaders), I think we could have a point system (not a shop) for exalted dragons/dom.

For each dragon you exalt, you get the normal payout and dom bonus, but you also get one point. It doesn't matter if the dragon is lvl 1 or 25, you still get 1 point.

To use these points, you go to the dom page, and there would be a button to use X of the points you have (you don't need to use all of them).

These would basically function as exalting another lvl 1 dragon from your account.

To prevent players from trying to snipe dom at the last minute before rollover, the points you use will be applied next rollover (so I use my points Tuesday, they'll be applied on Wednesday), or applied at the start of the next week could also work. This is to give other flights a chance to respond.


How this would help is that a player who exalts 1 dragon can still apply 1 point, or save it for another dom, so there's a bit less reason to be upset with them (especially since the points will normally be stockpiled for pushed).

Problems this would cause is players stockpiling for a long time suddenly using all their points, and other flights not being able to catch them. I personally don't think this would be a huge issue since dom heavy/savvy flights are already hard to catch.


EDIT:
I wasn't as clear as I meant to be...

The current dom system and points would not change. If you exalt a lvl 6 dragon, you get the normal payout and dom bonus, but you will get an additional point you can spend immediately or later on.

This is an addition to dom, not a replacement.

***

The dom bonus these add would still be affected by the number of active players per flight. 500 points spent in Earth would have a bigger impact than 500 point spent in Shadow.
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That would actually create a rather interesting mechanic... If these points do not 'get lost' that means that a) people that exalt regardless of their flights push (cause they need space, money etc) can participate in their flights dom even if they only have very low spaceamouts (imagine a lair with only 2 or 3 free spaces that can only exalt a rather low amout of dragons due to this being able to put their last 3 weeks worth of exalts towards the efforts) and b) that users that missed a big part of the week (RL sucks sometimes) can still participate a big chunk with saved up points.

It would make dom a lot more unpredictable. Which might be just what we need.
That would actually create a rather interesting mechanic... If these points do not 'get lost' that means that a) people that exalt regardless of their flights push (cause they need space, money etc) can participate in their flights dom even if they only have very low spaceamouts (imagine a lair with only 2 or 3 free spaces that can only exalt a rather low amout of dragons due to this being able to put their last 3 weeks worth of exalts towards the efforts) and b) that users that missed a big part of the week (RL sucks sometimes) can still participate a big chunk with saved up points.

It would make dom a lot more unpredictable. Which might be just what we need.
No support.

If you're penalizing people for leveling dragons (by making point values equal regardless of the dragon's level), this would just drain people's wallets. The exalt payout from leveled dragons lets newer users with less of a budget to go buy more fodder, and removing that option removes them from participating in dom the second they run out of fodder.

If this were implemented, the points should be spent immediately. Saving it for another week would definitely lead to an abuse of the system.
No support.

If you're penalizing people for leveling dragons (by making point values equal regardless of the dragon's level), this would just drain people's wallets. The exalt payout from leveled dragons lets newer users with less of a budget to go buy more fodder, and removing that option removes them from participating in dom the second they run out of fodder.

If this were implemented, the points should be spent immediately. Saving it for another week would definitely lead to an abuse of the system.
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@Elisse

I'm not sure how this would affect payouts? If you exalt a lvl 6 dragon, it affects dom like normal, you just get an additional 1 point to spend later on, or immediately.

This would be added to the current (or changed) system, not replacing it.
@Elisse

I'm not sure how this would affect payouts? If you exalt a lvl 6 dragon, it affects dom like normal, you just get an additional 1 point to spend later on, or immediately.

This would be added to the current (or changed) system, not replacing it.
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@Mohenjo
The time you'd use to train one dragon to earn one point could be spent buying and exalting 50 level one dragons to earn fifty points.

@Mohenjo
The time you'd use to train one dragon to earn one point could be spent buying and exalting 50 level one dragons to earn fifty points.

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@Elisse

I agree that players could buy and exalt lvl 1 dragons, then use the points to make it equivalent to exalting a lvl 2, however, I don't see that many people using that method as they'll be losing money.

You can buy 50 lvl 1s for 100 total points, or you can train 50 lvl 5s for a total of 300 points.

It's the same reason people don't train to lvl 3 and 4 to exalt very often: it's not financially viable in the long run. You go broke pretty fast. You train to lvl 5 or 6 because it's the most cost effective (for time and payout) level to exalt at.
@Elisse

I agree that players could buy and exalt lvl 1 dragons, then use the points to make it equivalent to exalting a lvl 2, however, I don't see that many people using that method as they'll be losing money.

You can buy 50 lvl 1s for 100 total points, or you can train 50 lvl 5s for a total of 300 points.

It's the same reason people don't train to lvl 3 and 4 to exalt very often: it's not financially viable in the long run. You go broke pretty fast. You train to lvl 5 or 6 because it's the most cost effective (for time and payout) level to exalt at.
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GLR + Mire - Ghire Gorer - 2 Fodder
Mire - Mire Mauler - 2 Fodder
GLR - Ruin Wrecker - 2 Fodder Trainer
Boreal Wood- Boreal Banisher - 2 Fodder Trainer
Harpy's Roost - Roost Rustler - 2 Fodder Trainer
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@Elisse

I too do not see your point? These exalt points are an 'extra' not a replacement. Leveling dragons does not become obsolete due to these points. You'd still get the leveled payout, the dompoint the levels are worth in the system we have now and ADDITIONALLY for each dragon you exalt you get one point to spend on the push - or save up in case your flight is not pushing right now.
@Elisse

I too do not see your point? These exalt points are an 'extra' not a replacement. Leveling dragons does not become obsolete due to these points. You'd still get the leveled payout, the dompoint the levels are worth in the system we have now and ADDITIONALLY for each dragon you exalt you get one point to spend on the push - or save up in case your flight is not pushing right now.
Sorry guys, I just don't think it;s a good idea.
Sorry guys, I just don't think it;s a good idea.
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@Elisse

And thats okay.. But I'd like tho get WHY you think its a bad idea. Maybe you bring up an important point - but if you do not tell us what we cannot find a way to counter it.
@Elisse

And thats okay.. But I'd like tho get WHY you think its a bad idea. Maybe you bring up an important point - but if you do not tell us what we cannot find a way to counter it.
@Ekon
Perhaps I misunderstood. If you're still getting normal payouts, okay, cool. I would change the bit about saving points to use for later though. If flights were able to stockpile previous points for a push in addition to dragons, how would that be fair? I'm confused about why the points earned wouldn't immediately be used.
@Ekon
Perhaps I misunderstood. If you're still getting normal payouts, okay, cool. I would change the bit about saving points to use for later though. If flights were able to stockpile previous points for a push in addition to dragons, how would that be fair? I'm confused about why the points earned wouldn't immediately be used.
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