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TOPIC | Make lair expansions cheaper?
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For me atleast lair expansions are way too expensive, its usually months apart between them because i have to pay 350kt for my next one, Along with making them cheaper increasing the lair cap would be nice.
For me atleast lair expansions are way too expensive, its usually months apart between them because i have to pay 350kt for my next one, Along with making them cheaper increasing the lair cap would be nice.
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I do not think the cost of lair expansions should be reduced at this moment. If/when they raise the cap, the admins can re-evaluate expansion costs like they did the first time they raised the cap. Ideally it be nice if the lair cap was completely removed and prices readjusted (with a less steep increase in costs for the lair spots up to the current cap) as that would allow players to expand as much as they want and could afford and by not having a limit expansions could continue to act as a treasure sink.

Lair expansions are a very important treasure sink. You need treasure sinks because they help the treasure keep its value. If more treasure is added to the game than removed, it devaluates the worth of each individual treasure. Yes players might have a lot of treasure in such a situation but it will cost a lot more to buy things. People complain about restockers with new items, if the treasure devaluates, you'd see restocking for more than marketplace prices just about everything.

Another reason behind the expenses in lair expansions is because active (as in a non exalted dragon) takes up more server space than an exalted dragon due to the data needed. The high costs help deter players from keeping dragons they don't really want; those unwanted dragons usually get exalted, thus saving on server space.

Dropping the lair expansion costs without altering the lair cap is not something I would like to see added but there are ways to make it easier for people to reach their lair expansions. For example I would love a way for players to pay into the expansions over time that way it helps people save their money as many players have trouble saving up to pay the higher expansion costs.
I do not think the cost of lair expansions should be reduced at this moment. If/when they raise the cap, the admins can re-evaluate expansion costs like they did the first time they raised the cap. Ideally it be nice if the lair cap was completely removed and prices readjusted (with a less steep increase in costs for the lair spots up to the current cap) as that would allow players to expand as much as they want and could afford and by not having a limit expansions could continue to act as a treasure sink.

Lair expansions are a very important treasure sink. You need treasure sinks because they help the treasure keep its value. If more treasure is added to the game than removed, it devaluates the worth of each individual treasure. Yes players might have a lot of treasure in such a situation but it will cost a lot more to buy things. People complain about restockers with new items, if the treasure devaluates, you'd see restocking for more than marketplace prices just about everything.

Another reason behind the expenses in lair expansions is because active (as in a non exalted dragon) takes up more server space than an exalted dragon due to the data needed. The high costs help deter players from keeping dragons they don't really want; those unwanted dragons usually get exalted, thus saving on server space.

Dropping the lair expansion costs without altering the lair cap is not something I would like to see added but there are ways to make it easier for people to reach their lair expansions. For example I would love a way for players to pay into the expansions over time that way it helps people save their money as many players have trouble saving up to pay the higher expansion costs.
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350k - thats 5 Days of fairgrounds maxing. Which is a total of 2 and a half hour of gameplay over the course of a week.
350k - thats 5 Days of fairgrounds maxing. Which is a total of 2 and a half hour of gameplay over the course of a week.
No support. For one thing, it would totally screw over the people who’ve already paid for their expansions. I don’t know about you, but if I expanded my lair for a hefty price and the next day lair prices went down, I’d be really ticked off.

For another, lair expansions are important treasure sinks. Reducing the prices would, in turn, reduce their efficiency.

As Ekon said above, 350kt isn’t really that bad. Especially with all the G&G guides available, people have been hitting the cap in a little less than half an hour.
So, with FG alone you could do it pretty easily. With other sources, like coli grinding, art, writing, dragon sales, familiar bonding, item sales, flipping, exalting, etc., you’d have it done in no time flat.
No support. For one thing, it would totally screw over the people who’ve already paid for their expansions. I don’t know about you, but if I expanded my lair for a hefty price and the next day lair prices went down, I’d be really ticked off.

For another, lair expansions are important treasure sinks. Reducing the prices would, in turn, reduce their efficiency.

As Ekon said above, 350kt isn’t really that bad. Especially with all the G&G guides available, people have been hitting the cap in a little less than half an hour.
So, with FG alone you could do it pretty easily. With other sources, like coli grinding, art, writing, dragon sales, familiar bonding, item sales, flipping, exalting, etc., you’d have it done in no time flat.
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[quote name="Ekon" date="2018-12-14 00:39:09" ] 350k - thats 5 Days of fairgrounds maxing. Which is a total of 2 and a half hour of gameplay over the course of a week. [/quote] Yeah pretty much this. There's no need in lowering the costs when it's so easy to get money, and if you want to get more money a day + the 75kt then sell things on the Auction house. Trust me, It's pretty easy. I have to get over 1mil for my current expansions and it's not all that bad. Although I wouldn't be apposed to more lair space.
Ekon wrote on 2018-12-14 00:39:09:
350k - thats 5 Days of fairgrounds maxing. Which is a total of 2 and a half hour of gameplay over the course of a week.
Yeah pretty much this. There's no need in lowering the costs when it's so easy to get money, and if you want to get more money a day + the 75kt then sell things on the Auction house.
Trust me, It's pretty easy. I have to get over 1mil for my current expansions and it's not all that bad.

Although I wouldn't be apposed to more lair space.
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Lair expansions function as a treasure sink. No support for reduced costs (and my expansions are at 1,5 mil each!)
Lair expansions function as a treasure sink. No support for reduced costs (and my expansions are at 1,5 mil each!)
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I don't at all think the expansions should be made cheaper, but I'd support a way to spread the cost out, either by having a pay-in system, or by letting people buy individual slots. As long as the total cost stays the same, I think that would be fine.
I don't at all think the expansions should be made cheaper, but I'd support a way to spread the cost out, either by having a pay-in system, or by letting people buy individual slots. As long as the total cost stays the same, I think that would be fine.
you won't be able to afford to feed them if you can't even afford to house them :D so do you also want cheaper/free food too?
you won't be able to afford to feed them if you can't even afford to house them :D so do you also want cheaper/free food too?
Sure, as long as I get a refund for the money I spent expanding my lair to the max at the current prices.
Sure, as long as I get a refund for the money I spent expanding my lair to the max at the current prices.
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No support for cheaper lair expansions. Save your treasure over time, try to do Fairgrounds games and train fodder in the coliseum to exalt. Hoardsell coli drops or sell the transmuted materials for profit.
No support for cheaper lair expansions. Save your treasure over time, try to do Fairgrounds games and train fodder in the coliseum to exalt. Hoardsell coli drops or sell the transmuted materials for profit.
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