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TOPIC | [IC/PC] Looping Wildclaw Adopt
[center]I drew this a long time ago in my sketchbook, but I still really like the pose and I thought about turning it into an adopt So I went over the lineart and I love how it turned out! Would anyone be interested in this as an adopt and if so, how much would you pay for it? Any help is greatly appreciated! [img]https://imgur.com/6CCc2E3.png[/img] [i]Edit: Did a quick adopts for one of my own dragons. Right now I'm thinking the secondary and primary genes are gonna be hand-drawn (maybe with an extra fee for complex genes like crystal/lionfish/wasp/etc?), and terts are gonna be sponsored for the first time drawing them, but free for every other time[/i] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/77082458][img]https://imgur.com/3WxH4Vm.png[/img][/url][/center]
I drew this a long time ago in my sketchbook, but I still really like the pose and I thought about turning it into an adopt

So I went over the lineart and I love how it turned out! Would anyone be interested in this as an adopt and if so, how much would you pay for it? Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Edit: Did a quick adopts for one of my own dragons. Right now I'm thinking the secondary and primary genes are gonna be hand-drawn (maybe with an extra fee for complex genes like crystal/lionfish/wasp/etc?), and terts are gonna be sponsored for the first time drawing them, but free for every other time

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Mostly just stopping by to say I absolutely LOVE that pose, it's so dynamic and fun!

For pricing, maybe 500g/kt? Maybe more, it's pretty unique, but it seems like most adopts on here go for around 300-500g.
Mostly just stopping by to say I absolutely LOVE that pose, it's so dynamic and fun!

For pricing, maybe 500g/kt? Maybe more, it's pretty unique, but it seems like most adopts on here go for around 300-500g.
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Definitely, I agree with the 300-500 range.
Definitely, I agree with the 300-500 range.
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The art quality is definitely 500k tier, but this pose & some design elements are driving me crazy. Instead of raptor claws, they have paws and the wings also seem really low on the body; coming out of the ribs instead of behind the shoulders. I know too far up they'll obscure the head but this far down makes it look a bit broken. I definitely want to see you open a shop though.
The art quality is definitely 500k tier, but this pose & some design elements are driving me crazy. Instead of raptor claws, they have paws and the wings also seem really low on the body; coming out of the ribs instead of behind the shoulders. I know too far up they'll obscure the head but this far down makes it look a bit broken. I definitely want to see you open a shop though.
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[center]@DemonicDuchess Thank you for your feedback! I did give them the large raptor claws, but you're right in that the paw-pads are a bit different. I thought it added to the whimsical, cute, and playful feeling of the pose but I can understand if it's a bit too jarring/off-model As for the wings, that was much more of a deliberate choice. Normally drawing dragon wings, I do end up putting them far back. Because the regular shoulder joint and the shoulder of the wing both need to account for a wide range of movement and associate with a large attachment of muscles, they need to have a fair amount of distance between them in order to accommodate. That being said, after taking a closer look I can see where the disconnect is, and I think if I moved the hump of the chest lower down, it might make it seem less like they're attached to the ribs and more of them having a very larg abdominal cavity for all their bones and muscles and organs and whatnot, which would be more accurate. [i]Edit: Okay, I reworked the chest a little bit, what do you think? I also added a side-by-side comparison to really illustrate the difference (the one on the left is the old version, the right one is the new one[/i] [img]https://imgur.com/3WxH4Vm.png[/img] [img]https://imgur.com/iCb92oR.png[/img][/center]
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Thank you for your feedback! I did give them the large raptor claws, but you're right in that the paw-pads are a bit different. I thought it added to the whimsical, cute, and playful feeling of the pose but I can understand if it's a bit too jarring/off-model

As for the wings, that was much more of a deliberate choice. Normally drawing dragon wings, I do end up putting them far back. Because the regular shoulder joint and the shoulder of the wing both need to account for a wide range of movement and associate with a large attachment of muscles, they need to have a fair amount of distance between them in order to accommodate. That being said, after taking a closer look I can see where the disconnect is, and I think if I moved the hump of the chest lower down, it might make it seem less like they're attached to the ribs and more of them having a very larg abdominal cavity for all their bones and muscles and organs and whatnot, which would be more accurate.


Edit: Okay, I reworked the chest a little bit, what do you think? I also added a side-by-side comparison to really illustrate the difference (the one on the left is the old version, the right one is the new one

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xxxArt of a black and grey wildclaw with green capsule leaping in the air with a big grin. They/Them with non-binary pride flag
Aroace with pride flag
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Art of a green mirror plushie with brown buttone eyes. Art Shop
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Avatar Dragon
Fandragons
Art of a red wildclaw from the chest up with pink feathers.
Sorry, I should've specified that I was talking about their pawed hands rather than their feet. They grind against my dinosaur knowledge so they squick me a bit, but it's minor in comparison to the wing issue. Of which, I do respect your reasoning. It does make sense on that level. However, I disagree because there wouldn't be the proper musculature in the middle/bottom of the ribs to support wings in that manner, not without another set of shoulder joints.

However, I do very much enjoy the edit to the chest. The chest was anatomically correct before, (which is why I didn't mention it,) but it definitely didn't read that way. With it smoothed out a bit, it definitely looks more like they're enjoying themselves, rather than writhing in agony so that's good. Overall it does look immensely better. I think you could sell this version without issue. Thank you so much for hearing me out on this, btw. I hope I haven't been too blunt.
Sorry, I should've specified that I was talking about their pawed hands rather than their feet. They grind against my dinosaur knowledge so they squick me a bit, but it's minor in comparison to the wing issue. Of which, I do respect your reasoning. It does make sense on that level. However, I disagree because there wouldn't be the proper musculature in the middle/bottom of the ribs to support wings in that manner, not without another set of shoulder joints.

However, I do very much enjoy the edit to the chest. The chest was anatomically correct before, (which is why I didn't mention it,) but it definitely didn't read that way. With it smoothed out a bit, it definitely looks more like they're enjoying themselves, rather than writhing in agony so that's good. Overall it does look immensely better. I think you could sell this version without issue. Thank you so much for hearing me out on this, btw. I hope I haven't been too blunt.
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@DemonicDuchess

I totally understand about the paws! As a fellow dinosaur fan, I definitely get the inaccuracy, I might change it lol, I'm just biased cause I love drawing paw-pads

In terms of the wings, all of this is speculative so of course there's disagreement lol, but in my head, they'd have a second set of abdominal/pectoral muscles attached to the shoulder joints, and a larger rib cage to accommodate the extra required bones. If the shoulder for the wings is too close to the shoulder for the arms, I'm concerned there won't be enough room for everything that's necessary for flight. If that makes sense? I'd love to talk about this more with you if you want! I love talking about dragon anatomy (ya know because I'm a huge nerd lol)

And I'm glad you like the edit to the chest! I agree that it reads more naturally this way, and I'm glad I changed it!

And don't worry, I'm glad to hear feedback on my art, so thank you for offering it! I can't improve without first noticing where my weaknesses are, and I welcome critique on these sorts of posts!
@DemonicDuchess

I totally understand about the paws! As a fellow dinosaur fan, I definitely get the inaccuracy, I might change it lol, I'm just biased cause I love drawing paw-pads

In terms of the wings, all of this is speculative so of course there's disagreement lol, but in my head, they'd have a second set of abdominal/pectoral muscles attached to the shoulder joints, and a larger rib cage to accommodate the extra required bones. If the shoulder for the wings is too close to the shoulder for the arms, I'm concerned there won't be enough room for everything that's necessary for flight. If that makes sense? I'd love to talk about this more with you if you want! I love talking about dragon anatomy (ya know because I'm a huge nerd lol)

And I'm glad you like the edit to the chest! I agree that it reads more naturally this way, and I'm glad I changed it!

And don't worry, I'm glad to hear feedback on my art, so thank you for offering it! I can't improve without first noticing where my weaknesses are, and I welcome critique on these sorts of posts!
xxxArt of a black and grey wildclaw with green capsule leaping in the air with a big grin. They/Them with non-binary pride flag
Aroace with pride flag
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Student
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Art of a green mirror plushie with brown buttone eyes. Art Shop
Art Dump
Wishlist
Avatar Dragon
Fandragons
Art of a red wildclaw from the chest up with pink feathers.
Orrr maybe you could add optional hands? 0w0 I know the idea is to have just one base you can easily recolor and make good coin on, but sometimes options can go a long way and this way, you can satisfy both camps (fluffy vs scaly.)

As for discussing it further, sure thing. My PM's are open and we can even move to discord, if you like. ^^
Orrr maybe you could add optional hands? 0w0 I know the idea is to have just one base you can easily recolor and make good coin on, but sometimes options can go a long way and this way, you can satisfy both camps (fluffy vs scaly.)

As for discussing it further, sure thing. My PM's are open and we can even move to discord, if you like. ^^
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