Does anyone know the rarity of the different gaoler genes?
TOPIC | Gaoler gene rarity?
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Some are in marketplace, some come from coli, and one is from Baldwin
Some are in marketplace, some come from coli, and one is from Baldwin
@emuthephoenix
Some are in marketplace, some come from coli, and one is from Baldwin
Some are in marketplace, some come from coli, and one is from Baldwin
In terms of Breeding Rarity I believe the Parallel genes will follow the same rarity as the Modern genes
For the new genes This is my best guess:
Rare: Gnarlhorns(gem)
Limited: Scorpion (Baldwin)
Uncommon: Shaggy, Streak, Mosaic, Breakup (same price or higher as a parallel uncommon) Phantom, Spirit, Weathered, (Coli)
Common: Shardflank (same price as a parallel common)
I have no data to back this up, but if they follow the same patterns as Modern genes this is what makes sense.
(if anyone has proof otherwise i'd love to know to update my spreadsheet for breeding pairs)
For the new genes This is my best guess:
Rare: Gnarlhorns(gem)
Limited: Scorpion (Baldwin)
Uncommon: Shaggy, Streak, Mosaic, Breakup (same price or higher as a parallel uncommon) Phantom, Spirit, Weathered, (Coli)
Common: Shardflank (same price as a parallel common)
I have no data to back this up, but if they follow the same patterns as Modern genes this is what makes sense.
(if anyone has proof otherwise i'd love to know to update my spreadsheet for breeding pairs)
In terms of Breeding Rarity I believe the Parallel genes will follow the same rarity as the Modern genes
For the new genes This is my best guess:
Rare: Gnarlhorns(gem)
Limited: Scorpion (Baldwin)
Uncommon: Shaggy, Streak, Mosaic, Breakup (same price or higher as a parallel uncommon) Phantom, Spirit, Weathered, (Coli)
Common: Shardflank (same price as a parallel common)
I have no data to back this up, but if they follow the same patterns as Modern genes this is what makes sense.
(if anyone has proof otherwise i'd love to know to update my spreadsheet for breeding pairs)
For the new genes This is my best guess:
Rare: Gnarlhorns(gem)
Limited: Scorpion (Baldwin)
Uncommon: Shaggy, Streak, Mosaic, Breakup (same price or higher as a parallel uncommon) Phantom, Spirit, Weathered, (Coli)
Common: Shardflank (same price as a parallel common)
I have no data to back this up, but if they follow the same patterns as Modern genes this is what makes sense.
(if anyone has proof otherwise i'd love to know to update my spreadsheet for breeding pairs)
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[quote name="ivycrowned" date="2019-06-09 13:25:51" ]
I did the (metaphorical) math on these assumptions:
Ancient genes that mimic modern genes also mimic their rarities.
All modern gem genes are rare, so all ancient gene gems are rare.
All modern baldwin genes are limited, so ancient baldwin genes are limited.
All modern coliseum genes are uncommon, so ancient coliseum genes are uncommon.
That just leaves Mosaic, Shaggy, Breakup, Streak, Shardflank, and Wintercoat, which are all at the top end of the price range for their respective genes, and so like their modern counterparts, are uncommon.
Primary
Bar - Uncommon
Crystal - Rare
Falcon - Common
Giraffe - Uncommon
Jaguar - Uncommon
Mosaic - Uncommon
Phantom - Uncommon
Piebald - Common
Pinstripe - Limited
Shaggy - Uncommon
Tapir - Common
Tiger - Common
Wasp - Rare
Secondary
Bee - Rare
Breakup - Uncommon
Daub - Common
Facet - Rare
Hex - Uncommon
Paint - Common
Peregrine - Common
Rosette - Uncommon
Spirit - Uncommon
Streak - Uncommon
Striation - Common
Stripes - Common
Trail - Limited
Tertiary
Ghost - Uncommon
Gnarlhorns - Rare
Ringlets - Uncommon
Runes - Limited
Scorpion - Limited
Shardflank - Uncommon
Smoke - Uncommon
Thylacine - Common
Underbelly - Common
Weathered - Limited
Wintercoat - Uncommon
Just gotta say one more time that these are logical guesses, so please, nobody take my word for it.
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I'm quoting myself from [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/2020862/97#post_39283971]here[/url].
ivycrowned wrote on 2019-06-09 13:25:51:
I did the (metaphorical) math on these assumptions:
Ancient genes that mimic modern genes also mimic their rarities.
All modern gem genes are rare, so all ancient gene gems are rare.
All modern baldwin genes are limited, so ancient baldwin genes are limited.
All modern coliseum genes are uncommon, so ancient coliseum genes are uncommon.
That just leaves Mosaic, Shaggy, Breakup, Streak, Shardflank, and Wintercoat, which are all at the top end of the price range for their respective genes, and so like their modern counterparts, are uncommon.
Primary
Bar - Uncommon
Crystal - Rare
Falcon - Common
Giraffe - Uncommon
Jaguar - Uncommon
Mosaic - Uncommon
Phantom - Uncommon
Piebald - Common
Pinstripe - Limited
Shaggy - Uncommon
Tapir - Common
Tiger - Common
Wasp - Rare
Secondary
Bee - Rare
Breakup - Uncommon
Daub - Common
Facet - Rare
Hex - Uncommon
Paint - Common
Peregrine - Common
Rosette - Uncommon
Spirit - Uncommon
Streak - Uncommon
Striation - Common
Stripes - Common
Trail - Limited
Tertiary
Ghost - Uncommon
Gnarlhorns - Rare
Ringlets - Uncommon
Runes - Limited
Scorpion - Limited
Shardflank - Uncommon
Smoke - Uncommon
Thylacine - Common
Underbelly - Common
Weathered - Limited
Wintercoat - Uncommon
Just gotta say one more time that these are logical guesses, so please, nobody take my word for it.
Ancient genes that mimic modern genes also mimic their rarities.
All modern gem genes are rare, so all ancient gene gems are rare.
All modern baldwin genes are limited, so ancient baldwin genes are limited.
All modern coliseum genes are uncommon, so ancient coliseum genes are uncommon.
That just leaves Mosaic, Shaggy, Breakup, Streak, Shardflank, and Wintercoat, which are all at the top end of the price range for their respective genes, and so like their modern counterparts, are uncommon.
Primary
Bar - Uncommon
Crystal - Rare
Falcon - Common
Giraffe - Uncommon
Jaguar - Uncommon
Mosaic - Uncommon
Phantom - Uncommon
Piebald - Common
Pinstripe - Limited
Shaggy - Uncommon
Tapir - Common
Tiger - Common
Wasp - Rare
Secondary
Bee - Rare
Breakup - Uncommon
Daub - Common
Facet - Rare
Hex - Uncommon
Paint - Common
Peregrine - Common
Rosette - Uncommon
Spirit - Uncommon
Streak - Uncommon
Striation - Common
Stripes - Common
Trail - Limited
Tertiary
Ghost - Uncommon
Gnarlhorns - Rare
Ringlets - Uncommon
Runes - Limited
Scorpion - Limited
Shardflank - Uncommon
Smoke - Uncommon
Thylacine - Common
Underbelly - Common
Weathered - Limited
Wintercoat - Uncommon
Just gotta say one more time that these are logical guesses, so please, nobody take my word for it.
I'm quoting myself from here.
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@/TheRedDragon13 did some tests and posted on Straif's breeding rarity thread
http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487/68#post_39299262
[quote name="TheRedDragon13" date="2019-06-10 06:54:35" ]
i didn't realise there was a thread for this; i went and did a bunch of tier predictions for the gaoler genes here
to sum it up, i did all these trials against jaguar/rosette/smoke, which were all uncommon, and then compared it to a breeding stat card that referenced this guide to get the actual tiers:
Shaggy - Common - 72% chance of it being shaggy out of 100 trials
Mosaic - Uncommon - i didn't write the numbers down for this one in the notebook i have on hand but iirc it was like 52-48 or something like that; it was very close to 50/50
Phantom - Limited - 12% chance of it being phantom out of 100 trials
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Streak - Common - 73% chance of it being streak out of 100 trials
Breakup - Uncommon - 46% chance of it being breakup out of 100
Spirit - 14% chance out of 100
-
Scorpion - Limited - 13% chance out of 100
Gnarlehorns - Rare - i actually got 0% out of 100 but the only tier that makes sense for is rare; this might need more work on it against a gene of a different tier
Wintercoat - Uncommon - 49% chance out of 100
Weathered - 16% chance out of 100
Shardflank - Common - 79% chance out of 100
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I think there's probably enough gened Gaolers now to run better forsee progeny hatchling tests to confirm their placements assuming the rarity ratios are the same as modern genes.
edit: @Anourou (pinging since you asked for data) I did a trial of 100 for Tiger/Striation/Underbelly (all common) against Shaggy/Streak/Shardflank and got just about 50/50 for all three. So that backs up what TheRedDragon got for those three.
Shaggy 51/Tiger 49
Streak 44/Striation 56
Shardflank 54/Underbelly 46
@/TheRedDragon13 did some tests and posted on Straif's breeding rarity thread
http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487/68#post_39299262
I think there's probably enough gened Gaolers now to run better forsee progeny hatchling tests to confirm their placements assuming the rarity ratios are the same as modern genes.
edit: @Anourou (pinging since you asked for data) I did a trial of 100 for Tiger/Striation/Underbelly (all common) against Shaggy/Streak/Shardflank and got just about 50/50 for all three. So that backs up what TheRedDragon got for those three.
Shaggy 51/Tiger 49
Streak 44/Striation 56
Shardflank 54/Underbelly 46
http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487/68#post_39299262
TheRedDragon13 wrote on 2019-06-10 06:54:35:
i didn't realise there was a thread for this; i went and did a bunch of tier predictions for the gaoler genes here
to sum it up, i did all these trials against jaguar/rosette/smoke, which were all uncommon, and then compared it to a breeding stat card that referenced this guide to get the actual tiers:
Shaggy - Common - 72% chance of it being shaggy out of 100 trials
Mosaic - Uncommon - i didn't write the numbers down for this one in the notebook i have on hand but iirc it was like 52-48 or something like that; it was very close to 50/50
Phantom - Limited - 12% chance of it being phantom out of 100 trials
-
Streak - Common - 73% chance of it being streak out of 100 trials
Breakup - Uncommon - 46% chance of it being breakup out of 100
Spirit - 14% chance out of 100
-
Scorpion - Limited - 13% chance out of 100
Gnarlehorns - Rare - i actually got 0% out of 100 but the only tier that makes sense for is rare; this might need more work on it against a gene of a different tier
Wintercoat - Uncommon - 49% chance out of 100
Weathered - 16% chance out of 100
Shardflank - Common - 79% chance out of 100
to sum it up, i did all these trials against jaguar/rosette/smoke, which were all uncommon, and then compared it to a breeding stat card that referenced this guide to get the actual tiers:
Shaggy - Common - 72% chance of it being shaggy out of 100 trials
Mosaic - Uncommon - i didn't write the numbers down for this one in the notebook i have on hand but iirc it was like 52-48 or something like that; it was very close to 50/50
Phantom - Limited - 12% chance of it being phantom out of 100 trials
-
Streak - Common - 73% chance of it being streak out of 100 trials
Breakup - Uncommon - 46% chance of it being breakup out of 100
Spirit - 14% chance out of 100
-
Scorpion - Limited - 13% chance out of 100
Gnarlehorns - Rare - i actually got 0% out of 100 but the only tier that makes sense for is rare; this might need more work on it against a gene of a different tier
Wintercoat - Uncommon - 49% chance out of 100
Weathered - 16% chance out of 100
Shardflank - Common - 79% chance out of 100
I think there's probably enough gened Gaolers now to run better forsee progeny hatchling tests to confirm their placements assuming the rarity ratios are the same as modern genes.
edit: @Anourou (pinging since you asked for data) I did a trial of 100 for Tiger/Striation/Underbelly (all common) against Shaggy/Streak/Shardflank and got just about 50/50 for all three. So that backs up what TheRedDragon got for those three.
Shaggy 51/Tiger 49
Streak 44/Striation 56
Shardflank 54/Underbelly 46
For a second I thought you meant literal rarity so when I saw phantom as uncommon I went •_•
For a second I thought you meant literal rarity so when I saw phantom as uncommon I went •_•
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