Observe this family tree, for my boy [url=https://flightrising.com/main.php?p=lair&id=26661&tab=dragon&did=3564558]Zudan[/url]:
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Would you say that any of these dragons are within the five generations mark for being non-viable to breed?
For those of you wondering why I'm not just using the bloodlines tool, check all four of the shown great-great grandmothers to understand my problem.
[url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/538207]Windswept[/url], [url=https://flightrising.com/main.php?p=view&id=30892&tab=dragon&did=1162477]Northstar[/url], [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/174615]Venus[/url], and [url=https://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=1029442]Ruby[/url].
Observe this family tree, for my boy
Zudan:
Would you say that any of these dragons are within the five generations mark for being non-viable to breed?
For those of you wondering why I'm not just using the bloodlines tool, check all four of the shown great-great grandmothers to understand my problem.
Windswept,
Northstar,
Venus, and
Ruby.
Yes, all of them are within the 5 generations mark.
Yes, all of them are within the 5 generations mark.
Perhaps this is a trick question. At first it looks like you're asking whether Zudan can breed with any of his great-grandmothers, and the answer is "no", because they're definitely within five generations. But maybe you're asking whether they're within five generations of each other, or with respect to some other target.
I haven't used Assay Bloodlines enough to know whether it will tell you about breeding viability for dragons who can't breed together anyway, such as two female dragons or a pair where one dragon is exalted (as Venus is).
Perhaps this is a trick question. At first it looks like you're asking whether Zudan can breed with any of his great-grandmothers, and the answer is "no", because they're definitely within five generations. But maybe you're asking whether they're within five generations of each other, or with respect to some other target.
I haven't used Assay Bloodlines enough to know whether it will tell you about breeding viability for dragons who can't breed together anyway, such as two female dragons or a pair where one dragon is exalted (as Venus is).
The way I see it, it could be one of two things:
1 First option is that there's a glitch with the Scrying Workshop. If you count all of the generations shown including Zudan it's five, but not including Zudan it's four. Also I'm like 90% sure that Zudan would have to be the "sixth" generation to breed with his great-grandparents (which means right now he should only be able to breed with either his great-great-grandparents or his great-great-grandkids). I'll mess around with a few of my own dragons just to be sure, but I think that's how it's supposed to work.
2 This second option is much less likely, though still possible. Not sure if you've heard of it, but there was a glitch a while back that allowed dragons to breed with their relatives no matter what generation they were, and then the hatchlings were unable to breed once the glitch was fixed. So it is possible that some part of the bloodline experienced this glitch or something similar to it at one point, and the dragons can't breed now.
The way I see it, it could be one of two things:
1 First option is that there's a glitch with the Scrying Workshop. If you count all of the generations shown including Zudan it's five, but not including Zudan it's four. Also I'm like 90% sure that Zudan would have to be the "sixth" generation to breed with his great-grandparents (which means right now he should only be able to breed with either his great-great-grandparents or his great-great-grandkids). I'll mess around with a few of my own dragons just to be sure, but I think that's how it's supposed to work.
2 This second option is much less likely, though still possible. Not sure if you've heard of it, but there was a glitch a while back that allowed dragons to breed with their relatives no matter what generation they were, and then the hatchlings were unable to breed once the glitch was fixed. So it is possible that some part of the bloodline experienced this glitch or something similar to it at one point, and the dragons can't breed now.
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Yes, they're within the 5-generation limit. The great-great grandmothers will show as being too closely related to themselves as well as Zudan, because they're only four gens removed from him. Zudan's children would be able to breed with one of the great-great grandparents, because that would be the fifth gen, but Zudan is not far enough removed to do so. The 5-gen limit doesn't count from the great-great grandparents, it counts from the gen following them.
Yes, they're within the 5-generation limit. The great-great grandmothers will show as being too closely related to themselves as well as Zudan, because they're only four gens removed from him. Zudan's children would be able to breed with one of the great-great grandparents, because that would be the fifth gen, but Zudan is not far enough removed to do so. The 5-gen limit doesn't count from the great-great grandparents, it counts from the gen following them.
Alright, thanks guys! I was wondering what was up with that, so thank you for the clarification. <3
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FourLeaf Assay Bloodlines says I can't breed with Zudan's great-grandfather Rath or his great-grandmother Aurora, so if the bloodline experienced that glitch, it's at the Gaston-Ruby/Mercury-Venus stage. Which would be weird for two pairs to experience that glitch!
Alright, thanks guys! I was wondering what was up with that, so thank you for the clarification. <3
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FourLeaf Assay Bloodlines says I can't breed with Zudan's great-grandfather Rath or his great-grandmother Aurora, so if the bloodline experienced that glitch, it's at the Gaston-Ruby/Mercury-Venus stage. Which would be weird for two pairs to experience that glitch!
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A full investigation of Zudan's bloodline reveals that the glitch seems to be related to the grandparents of both grandfathers. Not sure if this means anything.
A full investigation of Zudan's bloodline reveals that the glitch seems to be related to the grandparents of both grandfathers. Not sure if this means anything.
A big shoutout to VolVokun, for testing Zudan with one of Aurora's sisters to confirm the glitch.
[quote]And done! I've sent Zudan back, and here's a screenshot of the breeding page:
[img]https://i.gyazo.com/f1632f54208cff8c19fa489b64fe6102.png[/img]
It did let me select them as a pair after all - I doublechecked with some related dragons and it didn't let me put them in a nest, so I wonder if it's just not counting back through the generations properly ????[/quote]
A big shoutout to VolVokun, for testing Zudan with one of Aurora's sisters to confirm the glitch.
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And done! I've sent Zudan back, and here's a screenshot of the breeding page:
It did let me select them as a pair after all - I doublechecked with some related dragons and it didn't let me put them in a nest, so I wonder if it's just not counting back through the generations properly ????
