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TOPIC | Are those terts genetic?
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[b][/b]So, while all tert genes are inheritable for the purposes of FR's gameplay, some of them don't really make sense as 'genes'. Here, in my not-at-all-qualified-and-really-just-making-this-up-as-I-go opinion, are which of these contentious genes are genetic and which aren't. [b]Runes[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=101&bodygene=0&breed=3&element=5&eyetype=2&gender=0&tert=109&tertgene=14&winggene=0&wings=74&auth=74152c2fb6494bb4b2dd38038e5f0f1c823038e7&dummyext=prev.png[/img] While pretty, this gene is usually purposely applied through the effects of a spell, and occasionally manifests as a side-effect of a dragon's personal magic reserve. Some propose that genetics might affect how likely you are to spontaneously manifest it, but overall it's [b]not genetic[/b]. [b]Gembond[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=146&bodygene=0&breed=7&element=2&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=155&tertgene=4&winggene=0&wings=172&auth=ff15e01a597cfc4c108dd0576810e7b1a75ea7b5&dummyext=prev.png[/img] This is a disease caused by the venom of the onyx cobra. However, it's actually a virus in the venom, and can infect a dragon's offspring. And as viruses altering DNA is one of the ways in which genetics can change, sure, let's call this [b]genetic[/b]. [b]Opal[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=32&bodygene=0&breed=4&element=9&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=107&tertgene=17&winggene=0&wings=73&auth=4e1b491da712d1821a11a3081e0894cc76401b56&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Some get this confused with gembond, but this one's not a virus, just a mutation that causes scales to fuse together and creates hard patches of skin. [b]Genetic[/b]. [b]Firefly[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=25&bodygene=0&breed=1&element=8&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=108&tertgene=22&winggene=0&wings=174&auth=b521b0c8da0141db69b95a6d94f63a4098a89b79&dummyext=prev.png[/img] This is just bug-attracting pheromones. [b]Genetic[/b]. [b]Blossom[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=121&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=8&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=40&tertgene=36&winggene=0&wings=62&auth=613b6dff2b1ed0e22f81a2a8888234c1ee7880c9&dummyext=prev.png[/img] This is actually an example of two creatures working in symbiosis. The flowers get to use their roots to draw valuable nutrients from the gaoler's bloodstream, while the gaoler gets to look pretty. The needs of the plants are low enough that the dragon isn't harmed, though having it removed is quite painful. [b]Not genetic.[/b] [b]Braids[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=8&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=10&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=74&tertgene=55&winggene=0&wings=168&auth=5e49a220256437131ca2262eb1ac9ec7bbc7de6a&dummyext=prev.png[/img] This is about as genetic as genetic as your family's ancient braiding technique that's been passed down since time immemorial can be. So, not at all. [b]Not genetic.[/b] [b]Skeletal[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=151&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=162&tertgene=45&winggene=0&wings=72&auth=a3d307cab5104f73519f51e5a34178d176e57d03&dummyext=prev.png[/img] This is a weird one. Only the part of the gene attached to the banescale's chest is actually part of the dragon. The rest is just matching bone armour they craft so as to not look silly. Anyways, the chest part is still [b]genetic[/b]. [b]Filigree[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=177&bodygene=0&breed=18&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=43&tertgene=43&winggene=0&wings=99&auth=92e1cce2851618d75bd6ae004c842777d1073e4d&dummyext=prev.png[/img] This gene is artificially made by carefully pouring hot metal onto the scales and letting it fuse to them and even if you do have scales this still seems like a horrible idea and if you don't why would you even do this!? [b]Not genetic[/b].
So, while all tert genes are inheritable for the purposes of FR's gameplay, some of them don't really make sense as 'genes'. Here, in my not-at-all-qualified-and-really-just-making-this-up-as-I-go opinion, are which of these contentious genes are genetic and which aren't.

Runes
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While pretty, this gene is usually purposely applied through the effects of a spell, and occasionally manifests as a side-effect of a dragon's personal magic reserve. Some propose that genetics might affect how likely you are to spontaneously manifest it, but overall it's not genetic.

Gembond
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This is a disease caused by the venom of the onyx cobra. However, it's actually a virus in the venom, and can infect a dragon's offspring. And as viruses altering DNA is one of the ways in which genetics can change, sure, let's call this genetic.

Opal
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Some get this confused with gembond, but this one's not a virus, just a mutation that causes scales to fuse together and creates hard patches of skin. Genetic.

Firefly
dragon?age=1&body=25&bodygene=0&breed=1&element=8&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=108&tertgene=22&winggene=0&wings=174&auth=b521b0c8da0141db69b95a6d94f63a4098a89b79&dummyext=prev.png
This is just bug-attracting pheromones. Genetic.

Blossom
dragon?age=1&body=121&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=8&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=40&tertgene=36&winggene=0&wings=62&auth=613b6dff2b1ed0e22f81a2a8888234c1ee7880c9&dummyext=prev.png
This is actually an example of two creatures working in symbiosis. The flowers get to use their roots to draw valuable nutrients from the gaoler's bloodstream, while the gaoler gets to look pretty. The needs of the plants are low enough that the dragon isn't harmed, though having it removed is quite painful. Not genetic.

Braids
dragon?age=1&body=8&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=10&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=74&tertgene=55&winggene=0&wings=168&auth=5e49a220256437131ca2262eb1ac9ec7bbc7de6a&dummyext=prev.png
This is about as genetic as genetic as your family's ancient braiding technique that's been passed down since time immemorial can be. So, not at all. Not genetic.

Skeletal
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This is a weird one. Only the part of the gene attached to the banescale's chest is actually part of the dragon. The rest is just matching bone armour they craft so as to not look silly. Anyways, the chest part is still genetic.

Filigree
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This gene is artificially made by carefully pouring hot metal onto the scales and letting it fuse to them and even if you do have scales this still seems like a horrible idea and if you don't why would you even do this!? Not genetic.
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Oh this is cool! Interesting for lore
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I mean, it's in the name. They're genes.
I mean, it's in the name. They're genes.
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I really love these explanations of genes, they make so much sense! I love the one about the gaoler braids lmao.
I really love these explanations of genes, they make so much sense! I love the one about the gaoler braids lmao.
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omg this is great lore!!! i love the one about blossom

would love to see your opinions on banescale genes like wraith!
omg this is great lore!!! i love the one about blossom

would love to see your opinions on banescale genes like wraith!
[quote name="ZincAlloy" date="2020-08-04 13:34:44" ] but this one's not a virus, just a mutation that causes scales to fuse together and creates hard patches of skin. [...] This gene is artificially made by carefully pouring hot metal onto the scales and letting it fuse to them [/quote] Sounds incredibly painful, I feel bad for giving my dragons Opal and Filigree now :(
ZincAlloy wrote on 2020-08-04 13:34:44:
but this one's not a virus, just a mutation that causes scales to fuse together and creates hard patches of skin.
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This gene is artificially made by carefully pouring hot metal onto the scales and letting it fuse to them

Sounds incredibly painful, I feel bad for giving my dragons Opal and Filigree now :(
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[quote name="vihuff" date="2020-08-04 23:11:33" ] I mean, it's in the name. They're genes. [/quote] Mm, it all seems fine to me. If a dragon can shoot fire out of their eyes, they can naturally form an encasement of metal, or have bits of their body wrap around itself in a specific pattern. Heck, maybe the Icewarden made Gaolers have the Braids gene to help keep their mane more controlled. Or so that they could have natural 'ropes' available to bind things with. No hands required natural hairstyling that just does itself. I personally don't think the 'genetics' of things who's life is directly tied to magic and god power really needs to make sense.
vihuff wrote on 2020-08-04 23:11:33:
I mean, it's in the name. They're genes.

Mm, it all seems fine to me. If a dragon can shoot fire out of their eyes, they can naturally form an encasement of metal, or have bits of their body wrap around itself in a specific pattern. Heck, maybe the Icewarden made Gaolers have the Braids gene to help keep their mane more controlled. Or so that they could have natural 'ropes' available to bind things with. No hands required natural hairstyling that just does itself. I personally don't think the 'genetics' of things who's life is directly tied to magic and god power really needs to make sense.
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Viruses....are stuff like the flu, common cold etc. that the immune system becomes immune to and as such destroys. Saying gembond is a virus that is inherited by birth is like saying the flu is inherited at birth, which technically it could be but it would still be very temporary or deadly.

I think what you are actually attempting to describe is genetic disorders which are genetically inherited. That said they don't quite fit gembond either in that genetic disorders aren't the result of an external source such as a snake bite.

Viruses....are stuff like the flu, common cold etc. that the immune system becomes immune to and as such destroys. Saying gembond is a virus that is inherited by birth is like saying the flu is inherited at birth, which technically it could be but it would still be very temporary or deadly.

I think what you are actually attempting to describe is genetic disorders which are genetically inherited. That said they don't quite fit gembond either in that genetic disorders aren't the result of an external source such as a snake bite.

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