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EDIT: I changed it up as I think I might've come off a little harsh in the original post, so sorry about that! My question was, why are so many people upset about Phar/Sarco being a gem gene? As far as gem genes go, they usually have something rather special (aside from petal/butterfly imo). Take Iri/Shim and Metal/Alloy for example; they are shiny - not flat colored like most treasure genes. Colorshift and lineart also kinda plays a part, seen in Wasp/Bee and Star/Const... and Phar/Sarco happens to be mostly black, making it far more unique than the others. Arguably, several Baldwin genes are worthy of gem value, but money is replaced with time and resources. Of course, my opinion is subjective, as is everyone else's. I understand that being 1500g is a lot for some people, and many of us aren't willing to spend $15. But gems are relatively easy to acquire compared to other virtual websites, and while continuously playing, racking up those big bucks comes rather quickly. Even though some of us don't/can't spend a long time here on FR, that's no one's fault. In fact, FR should be the least of our worries if work and school are on the schedule. Letting staff know what we do/don't like is completely reasonable. I [i]do[/i] agree that there needs to be some fixes with these new genes, considering how dark that black gets.. not to mention that the Staff are a small group of people compared to the thousands of us playing. All I'm saying is that I think Phar/Sarco being a gem gene is reasonable. EDIT: lastly, this is very important, and please remember this. In no way am I trying to "attack" anyone for not wanting it to be a gem gene. Opinions are allowed here, this is a discussion thread. Just trying to understand where the disappointment is coming from. [quote=Moderator ToxieToxie]Also *puts on Mod Hat*: Do not attack other players for expressing their personal opinion. People are allowed to say they're disappointed a new release costs gems, and they're not acting entitled for doing so. Thank you.[/quote] ----- [quote]Yeah, but if you're not willing to spend premium currency on your "incredibly and definitely favorite set of genes," then you're probably not willing to spend premium currency at all. Or at least, not at the price point they want. Which is fair, you know your budget. But that's not a problem with the quality of the genes. If they're your favorite, then it seems like the quality is there.[/quote] This right here is great. [quote]If y’all are buying gems you shouldn’t be — trade your treasure and set up ways to make currency. I can’t imagine buying gems with cash. That’s never happening for me, no matter how much I enjoy the site. They deserve the gem tag. They completely modify the primary and secondary![/quote] My only issue with this is that.. buying gems is how Staff get money. And I'm not implying that they are greedy, but they are people who need to pay for things. Don't encourage people to [i]not[/i] buy. If they want to, they will, and if they won't they don't. I have no problem with spending money here. Hell, I've probably spent over $100 on gems throughout my FR career but that's on me. [quote]I love the new genes and I think they're deserving of the gem marketplace, I'm just sad all the gem genes I love also happen to wind up being the most expensive, as the amount of premium currency takes a loooong time to save up for. But those are personal opinions/problems XD I think having a gene set that's predominantly black is a nice change of pace, compared to what else is available (like pie/paint, as some have said). I think it will REALLY hit the mark for a lot of people that prefer those darker pallets on their dragons! Also, it could help dragons whose colors otherwise wouldn't work together seem less... eye-burny. The set looks REALLY good with Stained in a lot of the scries I'm seeing![/quote] This is great as well! I laughed because that's exactly what Staff wants to happen here; based on, let's say, the Suggestion Thread, they can guess what we want and how much of a demand it will bring. We already see that Wasp/Bee and Star/Const are an extremely popular gene set and something that everyone was very excited about. And by that, we can all say gems were bought and spent.
EDIT: I changed it up as I think I might've come off a little harsh in the original post, so sorry about that!

My question was, why are so many people upset about Phar/Sarco being a gem gene?

As far as gem genes go, they usually have something rather special (aside from petal/butterfly imo). Take Iri/Shim and Metal/Alloy for example; they are shiny - not flat colored like most treasure genes. Colorshift and lineart also kinda plays a part, seen in Wasp/Bee and Star/Const... and Phar/Sarco happens to be mostly black, making it far more unique than the others. Arguably, several Baldwin genes are worthy of gem value, but money is replaced with time and resources. Of course, my opinion is subjective, as is everyone else's.

I understand that being 1500g is a lot for some people, and many of us aren't willing to spend $15. But gems are relatively easy to acquire compared to other virtual websites, and while continuously playing, racking up those big bucks comes rather quickly. Even though some of us don't/can't spend a long time here on FR, that's no one's fault. In fact, FR should be the least of our worries if work and school are on the schedule.

Letting staff know what we do/don't like is completely reasonable. I do agree that there needs to be some fixes with these new genes, considering how dark that black gets.. not to mention that the Staff are a small group of people compared to the thousands of us playing.

All I'm saying is that I think Phar/Sarco being a gem gene is reasonable.


EDIT: lastly, this is very important, and please remember this. In no way am I trying to "attack" anyone for not wanting it to be a gem gene. Opinions are allowed here, this is a discussion thread. Just trying to understand where the disappointment is coming from.
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Also *puts on Mod Hat*: Do not attack other players for expressing their personal opinion. People are allowed to say they're disappointed a new release costs gems, and they're not acting entitled for doing so. Thank you.

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Yeah, but if you're not willing to spend premium currency on your "incredibly and definitely favorite set of genes," then you're probably not willing to spend premium currency at all. Or at least, not at the price point they want. Which is fair, you know your budget. But that's not a problem with the quality of the genes. If they're your favorite, then it seems like the quality is there.
This right here is great.

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If y’all are buying gems you shouldn’t be — trade your treasure and set up ways to make currency. I can’t imagine buying gems with cash. That’s never happening for me, no matter how much I enjoy the site.

They deserve the gem tag. They completely modify the primary and secondary!
My only issue with this is that.. buying gems is how Staff get money. And I'm not implying that they are greedy, but they are people who need to pay for things. Don't encourage people to not buy. If they want to, they will, and if they won't they don't. I have no problem with spending money here. Hell, I've probably spent over $100 on gems throughout my FR career but that's on me.

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I love the new genes and I think they're deserving of the gem marketplace, I'm just sad all the gem genes I love also happen to wind up being the most expensive, as the amount of premium currency takes a loooong time to save up for. But those are personal opinions/problems XD

I think having a gene set that's predominantly black is a nice change of pace, compared to what else is available (like pie/paint, as some have said). I think it will REALLY hit the mark for a lot of people that prefer those darker pallets on their dragons!

Also, it could help dragons whose colors otherwise wouldn't work together seem less... eye-burny. The set looks REALLY good with Stained in a lot of the scries I'm seeing!
This is great as well! I laughed because that's exactly what Staff wants to happen here; based on, let's say, the Suggestion Thread, they can guess what we want and how much of a demand it will bring. We already see that Wasp/Bee and Star/Const are an extremely popular gene set and something that everyone was very excited about. And by that, we can all say gems were bought and spent.
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I really don’t care tbh, the genes are nice and I like them but I’m not going “omg I need this right now” so I’m fine with waiting until I can buy a dragon with it if I want to
I really don’t care tbh, the genes are nice and I like them but I’m not going “omg I need this right now” so I’m fine with waiting until I can buy a dragon with it if I want to
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i'd say the desire to have a lot of it probably contributes to a quite a bit of that

i agree that it it's fitting to the type, and going by the wiki, it looks like the last gem primary/secondary was back in 2018, so it's been a while.
i'd say the desire to have a lot of it probably contributes to a quite a bit of that

i agree that it it's fitting to the type, and going by the wiki, it looks like the last gem primary/secondary was back in 2018, so it's been a while.
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people don't like spending gems on stuff because they are harder to come by so they will complain about them being gem genes because they can't buy them.

These are special genes - we have nothing like them in the game. They deserve to be gem genes much more than some others do.

Also complainers will complain, every update will have a vocal minority yelling about some small thing that doesn't matter. As is life.
people don't like spending gems on stuff because they are harder to come by so they will complain about them being gem genes because they can't buy them.

These are special genes - we have nothing like them in the game. They deserve to be gem genes much more than some others do.

Also complainers will complain, every update will have a vocal minority yelling about some small thing that doesn't matter. As is life.
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It has as great quality as all of the other genes do, of course there are some designs that are more desired than others -which, it seems to be a big hit.

That said, when I look at it I don't get the same vibes that other gem genes give me; it is a highly desirable gene, and it's awesome having a background that is more black than white (unlike Pie/Paint), and I'm sure like me many other's feel absolutely blown away to have it available, but in my personal opinion they should have been either Baldwin or Treasure genes.

I will still spend on them, but I, in all honestly, feel as though they should be obtained differently.
It has as great quality as all of the other genes do, of course there are some designs that are more desired than others -which, it seems to be a big hit.

That said, when I look at it I don't get the same vibes that other gem genes give me; it is a highly desirable gene, and it's awesome having a background that is more black than white (unlike Pie/Paint), and I'm sure like me many other's feel absolutely blown away to have it available, but in my personal opinion they should have been either Baldwin or Treasure genes.

I will still spend on them, but I, in all honestly, feel as though they should be obtained differently.
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I'm just upset because modern gem genes are like so expensive I can never justify buying one yet I like this gene. A single purchase of $10 worth of gems can't even afford me One of the genes. I get that it absolutely fits as one and the staff uses gems as income though so I don't exactly think it should be changed nor will I ever ask for it to be like keep it up there sure whatever- I just hate the prices.
I'm just upset because modern gem genes are like so expensive I can never justify buying one yet I like this gene. A single purchase of $10 worth of gems can't even afford me One of the genes. I get that it absolutely fits as one and the staff uses gems as income though so I don't exactly think it should be changed nor will I ever ask for it to be like keep it up there sure whatever- I just hate the prices.
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Personally, I'm glad that it isn't another shiny gene locked to the Gem Marketplace. Flaunt/Flair was already a great change, and I'm glad to see it continue with Pha/Sar.

To some, its a great gem gene. To others, it isn't. Whether that be because it doesn't look like the traditional gem genes, because they think it would be better suited elsewhere, or for whatever reason.
Personally, I'm glad that it isn't another shiny gene locked to the Gem Marketplace. Flaunt/Flair was already a great change, and I'm glad to see it continue with Pha/Sar.

To some, its a great gem gene. To others, it isn't. Whether that be because it doesn't look like the traditional gem genes, because they think it would be better suited elsewhere, or for whatever reason.
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Because we wants it, yes precious, we wants it [emoji=spiral star size=2] Seriously, the only attempt I've seen to explain it is that gem genes should be shiny, but butterfly/petals aren't, and neither is circuit, fans, gnarlhorns, pinions, plumage, or wraith. Meanwhile, capsule and angler are Baldwin genes, firefly is Swipp. It's not like "shiny gene = gem" has ever been a hard rule.
Because we wants it, yes precious, we wants it

Seriously, the only attempt I've seen to explain it is that gem genes should be shiny, but butterfly/petals aren't, and neither is circuit, fans, gnarlhorns, pinions, plumage, or wraith. Meanwhile, capsule and angler are Baldwin genes, firefly is Swipp. It's not like "shiny gene = gem" has ever been a hard rule.
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[quote name="Recallback" date="2022-01-18 19:06:32" ] I'm just upset because modern gem genes are like so expensive [b]I can never justify buying one[/b] yet I like this gene. [b]A single purchase of $10 worth of gems[/b] can't even afford me One of the genes. I get that it absolutely fits as one and the staff uses gems as income though so [b]I don't exactly think it should be changed nor will I ever ask for it to[/b] be like keep it up there sure whatever- [b]I just hate the prices[/b]. [/quote] pretty much this, lol. besides that, if fla/fla weren't gem genes, i don't see why sarcopharaoh would be. fla/fla adds a lot, and while sarcopharaoh are incredibly nice and definitely my favorite set of genes so far, i don't really see the gem quality, especially in the secondary.
Recallback wrote on 2022-01-18 19:06:32:
I'm just upset because modern gem genes are like so expensive I can never justify buying one yet I like this gene. A single purchase of $10 worth of gems can't even afford me One of the genes. I get that it absolutely fits as one and the staff uses gems as income though so I don't exactly think it should be changed nor will I ever ask for it to be like keep it up there sure whatever- I just hate the prices.

pretty much this, lol. besides that, if fla/fla weren't gem genes, i don't see why sarcopharaoh would be. fla/fla adds a lot, and while sarcopharaoh are incredibly nice and definitely my favorite set of genes so far, i don't really see the gem quality, especially in the secondary.
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[quote]sarcopharaoh are incredibly and definitely my favorite set of genes so far, i don't really see the gem quality[/quote] They're desirable, but not gem quality? 'Cause if I were a game designer, I should think "desirable" would be the quality I want for premium currency items.
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sarcopharaoh are incredibly and definitely my favorite set of genes so far, i don't really see the gem quality

They're desirable, but not gem quality? 'Cause if I were a game designer, I should think "desirable" would be the quality I want for premium currency items.
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