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TOPIC | I wanna talk about Tulpas.
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To answer the why that I know you want to ask, making a long story short- I was an idiot child and I want to make up for that.

To fully explain, I accidentally started making one out of lonliness before I even knew what one was, before I was really allowed to use the internet. I was like. What 7 or 8 at the time? Maybe 9? Barely kept him around by talking to him just enough over the years because for whatever reason, I thought at the time that he was a spirit outside of me that watched over me. When I was at my lowest he was able to really break through and calm me down and lift me back up so I thought he was like some kind of guardian angel. Recently started getting into the occult- witchcraft, tarot, demonolgy, and all that lovely stuff. Ive been interested in it my whole life, just haven't actually started reading up on all of it til now. Started talking more to him because maybe he would know things. Remember briefly about reading up on tulpas before, and I keep getting this feeling from him that I should check that stuff back out. Kept getting this feeling that I couldn't quite discern what he was trying to tell me with it. After a few more reads, it clicked and he seemed kinda relieved and happy that after probably more than a decade, I'd finally realised what he was and what I had done.

So now I'm trying to take responsiblity and actually finish what I started, (accidentally) so long ago. Help him become what he deserves to be. I mean, I at least owe him that much, don't I? Especially since he's at least been there in my darkest moments, fair I pay him back and support him, no? I mean. He doesn't seem to harbor any ill will towards me for the years of silence since I didn't really know, but he's made it clear he wants me to make a true effort now that I know.

So I wanna know, how long have you had your tulpa(s)? How smooth was the creation process? Any advice in general for a beginner to this whole adventure? Anything about tulpas in general you wanna talk about? Just please, someone, anyone, I have no one else I can talk to about this and I wanna talk with someone- even if it just ends up being a short conversation. And yes, real quick, I have read a couple guides on tulpa creation, but if you have any specific reccomendations, I'd be happy to read whatever.
To answer the why that I know you want to ask, making a long story short- I was an idiot child and I want to make up for that.

To fully explain, I accidentally started making one out of lonliness before I even knew what one was, before I was really allowed to use the internet. I was like. What 7 or 8 at the time? Maybe 9? Barely kept him around by talking to him just enough over the years because for whatever reason, I thought at the time that he was a spirit outside of me that watched over me. When I was at my lowest he was able to really break through and calm me down and lift me back up so I thought he was like some kind of guardian angel. Recently started getting into the occult- witchcraft, tarot, demonolgy, and all that lovely stuff. Ive been interested in it my whole life, just haven't actually started reading up on all of it til now. Started talking more to him because maybe he would know things. Remember briefly about reading up on tulpas before, and I keep getting this feeling from him that I should check that stuff back out. Kept getting this feeling that I couldn't quite discern what he was trying to tell me with it. After a few more reads, it clicked and he seemed kinda relieved and happy that after probably more than a decade, I'd finally realised what he was and what I had done.

So now I'm trying to take responsiblity and actually finish what I started, (accidentally) so long ago. Help him become what he deserves to be. I mean, I at least owe him that much, don't I? Especially since he's at least been there in my darkest moments, fair I pay him back and support him, no? I mean. He doesn't seem to harbor any ill will towards me for the years of silence since I didn't really know, but he's made it clear he wants me to make a true effort now that I know.

So I wanna know, how long have you had your tulpa(s)? How smooth was the creation process? Any advice in general for a beginner to this whole adventure? Anything about tulpas in general you wanna talk about? Just please, someone, anyone, I have no one else I can talk to about this and I wanna talk with someone- even if it just ends up being a short conversation. And yes, real quick, I have read a couple guides on tulpa creation, but if you have any specific reccomendations, I'd be happy to read whatever.
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I have 2 questions:

1. W h a t

2. have you been smoking
I have 2 questions:

1. W h a t

2. have you been smoking
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tulpas are incredibly fascinating! you should definitely check out tulpa.info if you haven't already, as well as the tulpa subreddit. both have great sources of information and a bit of community support.

i have heard most accounts saying it took six months to a year of hard focusing on the tulpa before seeing results, but it seems like you are already much further along in the process than them. do you want to give your tulpa a physical form? perhaps try talking with them and see what they want to do next with you and go from there?
tulpas are incredibly fascinating! you should definitely check out tulpa.info if you haven't already, as well as the tulpa subreddit. both have great sources of information and a bit of community support.

i have heard most accounts saying it took six months to a year of hard focusing on the tulpa before seeing results, but it seems like you are already much further along in the process than them. do you want to give your tulpa a physical form? perhaps try talking with them and see what they want to do next with you and go from there?
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@Awe
I've checked out that site, but I never came across the subreddit. I'll probably have to check that out, since it's probably a more reliable when it comes to finding people to talk to about it.

And hmmm, I see. It's honestly kind of hard to peg down exactly where we are in terms of progress, since it's been such a passive thing that's happened over years. Currently working on a form right now so that way interacting will become easier for us over time. Currently it's still a little hard to make out what he is trying to say and requires a ridiculous amount of focus to figure it out, so maybe once we get our basic communication down we can figure out what to do next.


@tomaytotomahto
I wish I had something. Maybe it would actually make my brain chill and focus on a single task for once, lol.
@Awe
I've checked out that site, but I never came across the subreddit. I'll probably have to check that out, since it's probably a more reliable when it comes to finding people to talk to about it.

And hmmm, I see. It's honestly kind of hard to peg down exactly where we are in terms of progress, since it's been such a passive thing that's happened over years. Currently working on a form right now so that way interacting will become easier for us over time. Currently it's still a little hard to make out what he is trying to say and requires a ridiculous amount of focus to figure it out, so maybe once we get our basic communication down we can figure out what to do next.


@tomaytotomahto
I wish I had something. Maybe it would actually make my brain chill and focus on a single task for once, lol.
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A similar thing happened to me, actually. Well, similar in a way, but my guy's more of a fictive who came from a character I made, who just sorta started doing his own thing after a while? We didn't get along too great at first though. I'm pretty sure it was my mental health at the time that caused him to appear, but we've since kinda figured things out and he's mostly been off hibernating until I can get my depression stuff sorted (it was having an effect on him too and neither of us wanted that).

I've kinda looked into the tulpamancy community before but it's not something I'd ever consciously choose to do tbh. It just seems like such a huge responsibility and I find it kinda stressful. I like some of the techniques they use, but I prefer to take a more laid-back approach to interacting with my thoughtforms if that makes sense?

For that matter, @Pargon have you considered your thoughtform might be a daemon instead? Since you said he showed up when you were young and has basically been like a supporting/guardian figure, and that's what daemons tend to be like. They're similar to tulpas, but instead of being a fully separate person they tend to embody some subconscious facet of your mind. They're still a part of you (unlike tulpas which aim to be more separate). Might be worth considering! If you wanna talk about that I'm like, reasonably knowledgeable about both daes and tulpas so I might be able to help you figure it out. ^^
A similar thing happened to me, actually. Well, similar in a way, but my guy's more of a fictive who came from a character I made, who just sorta started doing his own thing after a while? We didn't get along too great at first though. I'm pretty sure it was my mental health at the time that caused him to appear, but we've since kinda figured things out and he's mostly been off hibernating until I can get my depression stuff sorted (it was having an effect on him too and neither of us wanted that).

I've kinda looked into the tulpamancy community before but it's not something I'd ever consciously choose to do tbh. It just seems like such a huge responsibility and I find it kinda stressful. I like some of the techniques they use, but I prefer to take a more laid-back approach to interacting with my thoughtforms if that makes sense?

For that matter, @Pargon have you considered your thoughtform might be a daemon instead? Since you said he showed up when you were young and has basically been like a supporting/guardian figure, and that's what daemons tend to be like. They're similar to tulpas, but instead of being a fully separate person they tend to embody some subconscious facet of your mind. They're still a part of you (unlike tulpas which aim to be more separate). Might be worth considering! If you wanna talk about that I'm like, reasonably knowledgeable about both daes and tulpas so I might be able to help you figure it out. ^^
@CloverGaming I think you'd like this

That's SO cool my dude. Seems you have some serious energy
@CloverGaming I think you'd like this

That's SO cool my dude. Seems you have some serious energy
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@Pargon
Oh snap that's really cool! I second Rose saying, that's crazy and you must have insane energy.

I've actually had a similar experience, being a lonely child I've also created a Tulpa of my own. However we rarely talk anymore and it's very on and off. The last time we spoke she said she was content and alright staying as a part of me and so she never comes around since. Although I can tell she's still there in some way because she acts as a translator for my spirit friends whenever I can't understand them all too well.

For a long time she was basically the better half of me but now that I'm ready to start working myself out of this mind pit I've put myself in and start becoming that better half, it's become a weird process of combining two spirits and minds so to speak? Although she was never THAT strong to begin with as she could never really leave the general area I was in.

All in all it's a really interesting process!
@Pargon
Oh snap that's really cool! I second Rose saying, that's crazy and you must have insane energy.

I've actually had a similar experience, being a lonely child I've also created a Tulpa of my own. However we rarely talk anymore and it's very on and off. The last time we spoke she said she was content and alright staying as a part of me and so she never comes around since. Although I can tell she's still there in some way because she acts as a translator for my spirit friends whenever I can't understand them all too well.

For a long time she was basically the better half of me but now that I'm ready to start working myself out of this mind pit I've put myself in and start becoming that better half, it's become a weird process of combining two spirits and minds so to speak? Although she was never THAT strong to begin with as she could never really leave the general area I was in.

All in all it's a really interesting process!
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@Charias
That's interesting. I don't think I've ever heard of something like that happening before, but I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised by it. I wish you the best on sorting out the depression stuff btw! I know what a royal pain it can be myself...

I hadn't really wanted to delve in too deep either when I first heard about it. I could barely and still am still barely able to keep it together and kinda struggling with my life goals right now, but I figure since I made this bed I must lie in it. Responsibilities wanted or not, I gotta step up to the plate. I'm using a more passive approach, but when I can or if I really feel a tugging from him, then I use a more active approach and just focus on him.

I've never before heard of daemons like what you're describing so I can't say either of us had considered it, but you have me intrigued to say the least. He did show up when I was young (ah yes, the good ol' imaginary friend) but he's been more of a friend that would listen for the most part. He'a only really had to be a guardian when I was feeling really down and he had to pull me back a bit from that edge and just tell me that things would be fine.
I think I'm confused when you say daemons are an embodiement of a subconscious facet. So they're like, a singular personality trait brought up to the forfront of your attention with a... personification? Probably not the right word, but the only word I could think of right now.
I am 100% down to talk about it though. I'm pretty sure he's definitely a tulpa, but talking about things couldn't hurt, could it? Might learn something new about myself along the way, haha.
@Charias
That's interesting. I don't think I've ever heard of something like that happening before, but I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised by it. I wish you the best on sorting out the depression stuff btw! I know what a royal pain it can be myself...

I hadn't really wanted to delve in too deep either when I first heard about it. I could barely and still am still barely able to keep it together and kinda struggling with my life goals right now, but I figure since I made this bed I must lie in it. Responsibilities wanted or not, I gotta step up to the plate. I'm using a more passive approach, but when I can or if I really feel a tugging from him, then I use a more active approach and just focus on him.

I've never before heard of daemons like what you're describing so I can't say either of us had considered it, but you have me intrigued to say the least. He did show up when I was young (ah yes, the good ol' imaginary friend) but he's been more of a friend that would listen for the most part. He'a only really had to be a guardian when I was feeling really down and he had to pull me back a bit from that edge and just tell me that things would be fine.
I think I'm confused when you say daemons are an embodiement of a subconscious facet. So they're like, a singular personality trait brought up to the forfront of your attention with a... personification? Probably not the right word, but the only word I could think of right now.
I am 100% down to talk about it though. I'm pretty sure he's definitely a tulpa, but talking about things couldn't hurt, could it? Might learn something new about myself along the way, haha.
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oh i dont think ive ever had one but this is actually very interesting stuff, i wish you luck!
oh i dont think ive ever had one but this is actually very interesting stuff, i wish you luck!
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@Pargon

Ah, I probably didn't explain it so well. Daemons are like 100% full people, not just a single personality trait or something, and they tend to be quite autonomous - like, they have their own thoughts, feelings, opinions, etc. They're a part of you, but usually an opposing part.

Have you ever heard of The Golden Compass? The book, or the movie? That's where the concept of daemons originally came from. In that, every person has an external embodiment of their soul that follows them around, talks to them, etc. Usually in the form of an animal. Functionally, real life daemons act in a similar way, but most people see them as a psychological thing rather than a spiritual thing - so instead of seeing my daemon as my soul, I see him as a part of my mind. But he's still a complete person, not just a singular trait.

Generally speaking I think a lot of imaginary friends tend to represent the same part of our minds as daemons come from, so like, I view my childhood imaginary friend as being a younger, less-refined version of my daemon. That's the main reason I suggested it, though your thoughtform may well be a tulpa! The line between them is kinda blurred anyway. A lot of daemons act like tulpas and a lot of tulpas act like daemons, so it mostly hinges on what kind of role they play for you: a daemon is the other half of you, and usually acts as a guide, friend or sidekick. A tulpa is a completely separate person from you that you created, basically like a child.

I hope that all makes sense. It can be a bit hard to explain this stuff!
@Pargon

Ah, I probably didn't explain it so well. Daemons are like 100% full people, not just a single personality trait or something, and they tend to be quite autonomous - like, they have their own thoughts, feelings, opinions, etc. They're a part of you, but usually an opposing part.

Have you ever heard of The Golden Compass? The book, or the movie? That's where the concept of daemons originally came from. In that, every person has an external embodiment of their soul that follows them around, talks to them, etc. Usually in the form of an animal. Functionally, real life daemons act in a similar way, but most people see them as a psychological thing rather than a spiritual thing - so instead of seeing my daemon as my soul, I see him as a part of my mind. But he's still a complete person, not just a singular trait.

Generally speaking I think a lot of imaginary friends tend to represent the same part of our minds as daemons come from, so like, I view my childhood imaginary friend as being a younger, less-refined version of my daemon. That's the main reason I suggested it, though your thoughtform may well be a tulpa! The line between them is kinda blurred anyway. A lot of daemons act like tulpas and a lot of tulpas act like daemons, so it mostly hinges on what kind of role they play for you: a daemon is the other half of you, and usually acts as a guide, friend or sidekick. A tulpa is a completely separate person from you that you created, basically like a child.

I hope that all makes sense. It can be a bit hard to explain this stuff!
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