man, that was such a wild period of time. what are y'all's thoughts on it? personally i think about the "lillie is UB-01" speculation every day of my life. personally i still believe there was a scrapped plotline going on with nihilego, even if it wasn't that. and the leaks, man there were a lot.......
EDIT: if you're here to talk about how much alola or the new games in general suck that's not what this thread is about. this is about how the time when sun/moon was coming out was a lawless land of speculation. also just because styles change doesn't mean the new pokemon look like fakemon literally every generation since unova has had it's own unique vibes when it comes to the designs and you could probably argue gens 1-4 had that too
man, that was such a wild period of time. what are y'all's thoughts on it? personally i think about the "lillie is UB-01" speculation every day of my life. personally i still believe there was a scrapped plotline going on with nihilego, even if it wasn't that. and the leaks, man there were a lot.......
EDIT: if you're here to talk about how much alola or the new games in general suck that's not what this thread is about. this is about how the time when sun/moon was coming out was a lawless land of speculation. also just because styles change doesn't mean the new pokemon look like fakemon literally every generation since unova has had it's own unique vibes when it comes to the designs and you could probably argue gens 1-4 had that too
30-50 feral bogs
yeah I remember that! that was right around the time I got back into playing pokemon, so I was keeping a close eye on serebii at the time. I missed out on most of the leaks and fake leaks though since I didn't watch all that many pokemon youtubers.
my favorite thing from that time is probably the fake starter leak that accidentally got the species of the starters right, that was hilarious. I was never too into the UB speculation all that much and I'm not a big fan of them, but I do think there was a scrapped or reworked UB plotline (not just Nihilego, but a few others too) for the anime.
yeah I remember that! that was right around the time I got back into playing pokemon, so I was keeping a close eye on serebii at the time. I missed out on most of the leaks and fake leaks though since I didn't watch all that many pokemon youtubers.
my favorite thing from that time is probably the fake starter leak that accidentally got the species of the starters right, that was hilarious. I was never too into the UB speculation all that much and I'm not a big fan of them, but I do think there was a scrapped or reworked UB plotline (not just Nihilego, but a few others too) for the anime.
Imagining dragons...
Lucky -
-
fanfiction writer and chronic daydreamer -
[quote name="LouckyKoneko" date="2021-10-07 04:59:03" ]
but I do think there was a scrapped or reworked UB plotline (not just Nihilego, but a few others too) for the anime.
[/quote]
as a huge fan of the alola anime, i am VERY curious about what you mean by that.
[quote name="LouckyKoneko" date="2021-10-07 04:59:03" ]
my favorite thing from that time is probably the fake starter leak that accidentally got the species of the starters right, that was hilarious.
[/quote]
also, if this is the leak i think it is, i think we already knew the japanese names of the starters from an earlier leak, so people were just going off of that.
LouckyKoneko wrote on 2021-10-07 04:59:03:
but I do think there was a scrapped or reworked UB plotline (not just Nihilego, but a few others too) for the anime.
as a huge fan of the alola anime, i am VERY curious about what you mean by that.
LouckyKoneko wrote on 2021-10-07 04:59:03:
my favorite thing from that time is probably the fake starter leak that accidentally got the species of the starters right, that was hilarious.
also, if this is the leak i think it is, i think we already knew the japanese names of the starters from an earlier leak, so people were just going off of that.
30-50 feral bogs
well, I was mostly just surprised that there wasn't really anything... major. maybe I'm just spoiled from watching Yu-Gi-Oh!, but I was kinda expecting some kind of huge overarching and really deep plotline, even though the anime isn't known for having those. combining that with how the games handle Nihilego really well but the other UBs just... not, I really do think either the games or the anime were supposed to do more but whatever had been planned got scrapped or reworked before it got past the "tossing up ideas and seeing what sticks" phase.
...UB lore is honestly the most underdeveloped lore we have in all of pokemon, now that I think of it. apart from the whole aura guardian thing that was around for one movie and like three anime episodes (and hinted at in Platinum through Riley's sprite animation) and then never got mentioned again. I am STILL mad about that, lmao. the whole aura guardian thing had such great lore potential. oh well, remakes to the rescue maybe?
I don't think we're thinking of the same leak, I was thinking of one that happened basically immediately after the generation was announced, when there were still loads of different starter species in speculative fake leaks. but I might be mistaken. like I said, I got all my news (including the few leaks I did see) from Serebii and one or two youtubers. I wasn't really keeping up with the leaks.
well, I was mostly just surprised that there wasn't really anything... major. maybe I'm just spoiled from watching Yu-Gi-Oh!, but I was kinda expecting some kind of huge overarching and really deep plotline, even though the anime isn't known for having those. combining that with how the games handle Nihilego really well but the other UBs just... not, I really do think either the games or the anime were supposed to do more but whatever had been planned got scrapped or reworked before it got past the "tossing up ideas and seeing what sticks" phase.
...UB lore is honestly the most underdeveloped lore we have in all of pokemon, now that I think of it. apart from the whole aura guardian thing that was around for one movie and like three anime episodes (and hinted at in Platinum through Riley's sprite animation) and then never got mentioned again. I am STILL mad about that, lmao. the whole aura guardian thing had such great lore potential. oh well, remakes to the rescue maybe?
I don't think we're thinking of the same leak, I was thinking of one that happened basically immediately after the generation was announced, when there were still loads of different starter species in speculative fake leaks. but I might be mistaken. like I said, I got all my news (including the few leaks I did see) from Serebii and one or two youtubers. I wasn't really keeping up with the leaks.
Imagining dragons...
Lucky -
-
fanfiction writer and chronic daydreamer -
Oh man this is so nostalgic for me
Sun/Moon hype is what got me back into Pokémon, it was a such great time to be a Pokémon fan back then
I remember how everybody went crazy over Guzma
Guzma still lives rent free in my head to this very day
I’m disappointed that the concept of Ultra Beasts didn’t come back for the Sword/Shield games
I was really hoping that they’d become a new staple in Pokémon, but alas they seem to have been reduced to gimmick status alongside other things like Mega Evolution and Gigantamax :(
Oh man this is so nostalgic for me
Sun/Moon hype is what got me back into Pokémon, it was a such great time to be a Pokémon fan back then
I remember how everybody went crazy over Guzma
Guzma still lives rent free in my head to this very day
I’m disappointed that the concept of Ultra Beasts didn’t come back for the Sword/Shield games
I was really hoping that they’d become a new staple in Pokémon, but alas they seem to have been reduced to gimmick status alongside other things like Mega Evolution and Gigantamax :(
Sun/Moon were the very first pokemon games... that I avoided like the plague and haven't touched with a barge pole. I've seen gameplay, know the basic story and new mons and it is so unappealing to me. No gyms, 'ride pokemon', the fakemon looking things they call ultrabeasts. Not to mention the whole wormhole thing and seemingly being able to catch every legendary through them. Then there's Hau...
Nope. Nada. Never.
Give me an actual trash talking rival to enjoy grinding under heel, 8 proper pokemon gyms with difficult leaders and no legendaries raining from the sky everytime someone sneezes.
Apologies about that rant. I do remember the sun/moon hype and was initially very exited. The more I saw the more sour I got about it though. It's something I wanted to enjoy but... for me the only redeeming feature was the 'evil team'.
Sun/Moon were the very first pokemon games... that I avoided like the plague and haven't touched with a barge pole. I've seen gameplay, know the basic story and new mons and it is so unappealing to me. No gyms, 'ride pokemon', the fakemon looking things they call ultrabeasts. Not to mention the whole wormhole thing and seemingly being able to catch every legendary through them. Then there's Hau...
Nope. Nada. Never.
Give me an actual trash talking rival to enjoy grinding under heel, 8 proper pokemon gyms with difficult leaders and no legendaries raining from the sky everytime someone sneezes.
Apologies about that rant. I do remember the sun/moon hype and was initially very exited. The more I saw the more sour I got about it though. It's something I wanted to enjoy but... for me the only redeeming feature was the 'evil team'.
I HATED those games. The lack of new water and grass pokemon when THEY ARE BASED ON HAWAII astounded me. I hated the weird wormholes, disliked a lot of the new pokemon, the cutscenes were nightmares for my ADD. They were so long, so much dialogue, none that I cared about.
God I hated those games XD I know people loved them, I just wasn't one of them.
I HATED those games. The lack of new water and grass pokemon when THEY ARE BASED ON HAWAII astounded me. I hated the weird wormholes, disliked a lot of the new pokemon, the cutscenes were nightmares for my ADD. They were so long, so much dialogue, none that I cared about.
God I hated those games XD I know people loved them, I just wasn't one of them.
Wishlist:
In Profile
It's so disappointing those last two game entries were pretty crappy in comparison to earlier ones. Plus there's some really damning things online about gamefreak online. Stuff about how little people the team working on pokemon has compared to the tsam GF has working on a totally unrelated mobile game. Also how they refuse to hire new folk despite how much bigger and more complex the poke mainline games are now. Not sure if all of it is true but it's out there and quite convincing.
It's so disappointing those last two game entries were pretty crappy in comparison to earlier ones. Plus there's some really damning things online about gamefreak online. Stuff about how little people the team working on pokemon has compared to the tsam GF has working on a totally unrelated mobile game. Also how they refuse to hire new folk despite how much bigger and more complex the poke mainline games are now. Not sure if all of it is true but it's out there and quite convincing.
With sun and moon in particular i remember being so hyped about all the ideas people had for those empty spots in town (having our own house again, like the treehouses' in platinum) only to get in game and see they just left all those plots empty...like...what was even the point (i didnt expect our own houses but they left everything so empty for no reason?)
With sun and moon in particular i remember being so hyped about all the ideas people had for those empty spots in town (having our own house again, like the treehouses' in platinum) only to get in game and see they just left all those plots empty...like...what was even the point (i didnt expect our own houses but they left everything so empty for no reason?)
Otherwise i enjoyed sun/moon (minus the ultra beasts, those things arent pokemon..which..is weird because all pokemon are aliens anyways)
Otherwise i enjoyed sun/moon (minus the ultra beasts, those things arent pokemon..which..is weird because all pokemon are aliens anyways)