(this is mostly copy pasted from discord but i need to get the rant out of my system i need interaction about it)
part 1 : Toothless' Design
I was rewatching some clips of the final battle from httyd1, looking for visual references really showing that stabilizing fin in action. Loved that about model 1 Toothless, the prominence of the fins. It's such an excellent detail in his design, tbh. Short and broad wings for immense power generated as quickly as possible allowing for maximum acceleration. The two separated tail fins which provide some stability but moreso control and maneuverability at high speeds as they act like a pair of secondary wings, for even sharper roll and yaw. And the stabilizing fin, just like a bird's tail, allowing for even greater stability and control at speed. mmhmhmmhmh its so GOOD
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part 2 : Slow
i jsut realized something that made the sequels feel really off to me. Toothless never feels fast in the sequels
night furies thats their thing! they are stealthy and they're fast, the design sells it perfectly i mean for F@KS sake the way they attack is exactly like peregrine falcons. they don't need brutal strength or razor sharp talons because what they do is divebomb their targets, using their fire blasts more to stun than to incinerate. this is everyone's favorite example for a reason. when aiming for larger prey at least.
Final Battle httyd1
Final Chase httyd3
just. compare the two. They're moving at a f@king snail's pace in 3. I can imagine the light fury being slower as they're adapted more to hunting around the ocean and so may have lost some of the sheer acceleration out of a lack of need (the blunter ends of fins and wings give that impression, it produces more drag) but given how closely related they are as species the difference can't be that great.
I even remember thinking while watching the chase in httyd3.. why aren't they outspeeding the bulky heavy deathgrippers with ease?
Weaving through the mountains (which is apparently what's keeping him from catching up) doesn't even need to be a thing at all, make the mountains too far away to be viable, the ACTUAL issue is that they cant fire at her without hurting her, the mountains doesnt need to be a thing. and also why are they so close to the ground in the first place? put them in the sky, they are sky dragons. Keep the rest of it ig but just go faster >:0
How about Toothless does the lightning cloaking because he and hiccup are As One (established in 2, like cloudjumper and valka) or just because he's smart and knows it will work (letting him have agency again). The noise and the flash of light distracts grimmel, allowing him to flex that, because of his adaptations, he's faster than nubless when he's trying to be. continue as normal.
part 3 : Light Fury Re/Design
I keep seeing these outlandish redesigns of the light fury and its funny and frustrating that not a single one of them appears to consider anything but aesthetic. you gotta think about adaptation and fitness, because the actual designers did and that's what gives the dragons their realism and believability, you can't cut it on looks alone. At least understand why the light fury looks the way she does before trying to change it. it's not a bunch of feminine anthropomorphic stereotypes (this time).
She has large eyes because she's a cousin species to the night fury who also has large eyes because they are based on birds of prey. (Toothless has changed a lot). She has a large round forehead because she is uniquely based on the beluga whale and their sonar, an adaptation that would make their easier mode of cloaking via heat even more effective, they're even stealthier, but during the day time, when a dragon as small as them would be otherwise quite vulnerable. Their natural coloration helps them blend in the clouds and sky, very common in the ocean, their seemingly preferred habitat given their presence in the hidden world. She has small hands because she doesn't need large claws for grappling. I assume that they also make use of the iconic dive but less dramatically, more like a pelican stunning fish to scoop up. the white color also helps her prolong avoiding detection from below, the same way marine animals do. perhaps she uses that hypothetical sonar to scout for schools of fish while hiding in the clouds where the fish and larger can's see her idk
point is, her design is good actually, eat dirt. i didnt like it either until i like. bothered to think about it from an ecological perspective
she is good and i love her
also male light furies literally exist in the movie lmao
edit: this post!
listen httyd has been in my brain since i was a wee lad. my autism grabbed onto this franchise with both hands and has refused to let go ever since. you must understand my brain is full of the soundtracks on loop permanently and i love it
part 1 : Toothless' Design
I was rewatching some clips of the final battle from httyd1, looking for visual references really showing that stabilizing fin in action. Loved that about model 1 Toothless, the prominence of the fins. It's such an excellent detail in his design, tbh. Short and broad wings for immense power generated as quickly as possible allowing for maximum acceleration. The two separated tail fins which provide some stability but moreso control and maneuverability at high speeds as they act like a pair of secondary wings, for even sharper roll and yaw. And the stabilizing fin, just like a bird's tail, allowing for even greater stability and control at speed. mmhmhmmhmh its so GOOD
|part 2 : Slow
i jsut realized something that made the sequels feel really off to me. Toothless never feels fast in the sequels
night furies thats their thing! they are stealthy and they're fast, the design sells it perfectly i mean for F@KS sake the way they attack is exactly like peregrine falcons. they don't need brutal strength or razor sharp talons because what they do is divebomb their targets, using their fire blasts more to stun than to incinerate. this is everyone's favorite example for a reason. when aiming for larger prey at least.
Final Battle httyd1
Final Chase httyd3
just. compare the two. They're moving at a f@king snail's pace in 3. I can imagine the light fury being slower as they're adapted more to hunting around the ocean and so may have lost some of the sheer acceleration out of a lack of need (the blunter ends of fins and wings give that impression, it produces more drag) but given how closely related they are as species the difference can't be that great.
I even remember thinking while watching the chase in httyd3.. why aren't they outspeeding the bulky heavy deathgrippers with ease?
Weaving through the mountains (which is apparently what's keeping him from catching up) doesn't even need to be a thing at all, make the mountains too far away to be viable, the ACTUAL issue is that they cant fire at her without hurting her, the mountains doesnt need to be a thing. and also why are they so close to the ground in the first place? put them in the sky, they are sky dragons. Keep the rest of it ig but just go faster >:0
How about Toothless does the lightning cloaking because he and hiccup are As One (established in 2, like cloudjumper and valka) or just because he's smart and knows it will work (letting him have agency again). The noise and the flash of light distracts grimmel, allowing him to flex that, because of his adaptations, he's faster than nubless when he's trying to be. continue as normal.
part 3 : Light Fury Re/Design
I keep seeing these outlandish redesigns of the light fury and its funny and frustrating that not a single one of them appears to consider anything but aesthetic. you gotta think about adaptation and fitness, because the actual designers did and that's what gives the dragons their realism and believability, you can't cut it on looks alone. At least understand why the light fury looks the way she does before trying to change it. it's not a bunch of feminine anthropomorphic stereotypes (this time).
She has large eyes because she's a cousin species to the night fury who also has large eyes because they are based on birds of prey. (Toothless has changed a lot). She has a large round forehead because she is uniquely based on the beluga whale and their sonar, an adaptation that would make their easier mode of cloaking via heat even more effective, they're even stealthier, but during the day time, when a dragon as small as them would be otherwise quite vulnerable. Their natural coloration helps them blend in the clouds and sky, very common in the ocean, their seemingly preferred habitat given their presence in the hidden world. She has small hands because she doesn't need large claws for grappling. I assume that they also make use of the iconic dive but less dramatically, more like a pelican stunning fish to scoop up. the white color also helps her prolong avoiding detection from below, the same way marine animals do. perhaps she uses that hypothetical sonar to scout for schools of fish while hiding in the clouds where the fish and larger can's see her idk
point is, her design is good actually, eat dirt. i didnt like it either until i like. bothered to think about it from an ecological perspective
she is good and i love her
also male light furies literally exist in the movie lmao
edit: this post!
listen httyd has been in my brain since i was a wee lad. my autism grabbed onto this franchise with both hands and has refused to let go ever since. you must understand my brain is full of the soundtracks on loop permanently and i love it
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A Bottomless Curse, A Bottomless Sea Accepting of All that there Is And can Be |
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see it see it see it see it (i know you see it) the wings and the stabilizing fin and the rudder, and i picked that image instead of a much nerdier one. obviously he handles like an F-117 (my beloved) or the much more recent
