I think it would be a good idea to add a new element to the game. I'll be called sun and moon, I think that'll be a good idea. Let me know what you think
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I think it would be a good idea to add a new element to the game. I'll be called sun and moon, I think that'll be a good idea. Let me know what you think
In my opinion adding a new playable flight is too much hassle and would involve reworking too much in the game to justify it. New flights should remain a fandom thing. As it is, dominance wise Beastclans already act as a 12th flight. Also if we add a new flight it just opens up the possibility of adding more flights down the line--when would it stop?
Holidays
With 11 flight festivals and December’s Night of the Nocturne event there is no room in the year to squeeze in another flight. Having multiple flights celebrate in the same month isn’t fair for either flight as most flights host celebrations of their holiday--usually it’s the week of the festival but there have been cases the week before has also been incorporated into the celebration. Having one festival in the beginning of a month and one festival at the end of the month means the flight who’s festival is at the beginning of the month would have to choose between effectively grinding for currency or effectively levelling exalt fodder. We don't need a December flight festival. Initially Ice’s holiday was in December but it was moved because the players didn’t want it interfering with real life commitments as generally December is a busy month. That’s one of the reasons NotN was decided to span two weeks.
Having the holidays overlap or only be a few days in sequence is even more unfair for the players of those flights as who would claim dominance for that week? In all cases, it would make getting enough festival currency difficult.
Coliseum and Dominance
It would involve having to rework the entire checks and balances of the elements--currently each flight has the same numbers of strengths and weaknesses. Even if it’s rebalanced it means players would have to relearn the element strengths and weaknesses.
Players already complain about how hard it is to grind for currency in the coliseum. New flights means new elements which means more enemies which means diluting the populations in the various sages which means its harder to grind for currency.
More flights means more competition for dominance. Some flights already have hard enough time getting dominance, adding more competition means that they’ll have an even harder time.
Lore
Adding a new flight generally would involve retconning the current lore, which I'd rather not happen. The Night of the Nocturne slips in well with the current lore and adds to it; it doesn’t involve twisting it or whatever. Also many of the new 12 flight suggestions already have ties into the existing flight lore.
--Metal -- Fire are the metal workers.
--Wood -- That’s nature’s flight
--Chaos -- That’s shadow’s thing
--Space -- Arcane’s thing
--Evil -- That’s the shade
--Knowledge -- Arcane and Light’s thing
--Time -- Too powerful of a concept. Nature and Plague were initially intended to be life and death but the concept was too big, so they changed it to aspects of that
Other Things
Unfair to players who’ve used their free flight change. They’ll have to pay to join this new flight that didn’t exist when they joined
Would involve redoing the map to fit them in - relatively minor thing but still
We already have 11 flights that’s a lot of choice to begin with--there are some flights with very small populations; we don’t need to further split ways to split populations.
Holidays
With 11 flight festivals and December’s Night of the Nocturne event there is no room in the year to squeeze in another flight. Having multiple flights celebrate in the same month isn’t fair for either flight as most flights host celebrations of their holiday--usually it’s the week of the festival but there have been cases the week before has also been incorporated into the celebration. Having one festival in the beginning of a month and one festival at the end of the month means the flight who’s festival is at the beginning of the month would have to choose between effectively grinding for currency or effectively levelling exalt fodder. We don't need a December flight festival. Initially Ice’s holiday was in December but it was moved because the players didn’t want it interfering with real life commitments as generally December is a busy month. That’s one of the reasons NotN was decided to span two weeks.
Having the holidays overlap or only be a few days in sequence is even more unfair for the players of those flights as who would claim dominance for that week? In all cases, it would make getting enough festival currency difficult.
Coliseum and Dominance
It would involve having to rework the entire checks and balances of the elements--currently each flight has the same numbers of strengths and weaknesses. Even if it’s rebalanced it means players would have to relearn the element strengths and weaknesses.
Players already complain about how hard it is to grind for currency in the coliseum. New flights means new elements which means more enemies which means diluting the populations in the various sages which means its harder to grind for currency.
More flights means more competition for dominance. Some flights already have hard enough time getting dominance, adding more competition means that they’ll have an even harder time.
Lore
Adding a new flight generally would involve retconning the current lore, which I'd rather not happen. The Night of the Nocturne slips in well with the current lore and adds to it; it doesn’t involve twisting it or whatever. Also many of the new 12 flight suggestions already have ties into the existing flight lore.
--Metal -- Fire are the metal workers.
--Wood -- That’s nature’s flight
--Chaos -- That’s shadow’s thing
--Space -- Arcane’s thing
--Evil -- That’s the shade
--Knowledge -- Arcane and Light’s thing
--Time -- Too powerful of a concept. Nature and Plague were initially intended to be life and death but the concept was too big, so they changed it to aspects of that
Other Things
Unfair to players who’ve used their free flight change. They’ll have to pay to join this new flight that didn’t exist when they joined
Would involve redoing the map to fit them in - relatively minor thing but still
We already have 11 flights that’s a lot of choice to begin with--there are some flights with very small populations; we don’t need to further split ways to split populations.
In my opinion adding a new playable flight is too much hassle and would involve reworking too much in the game to justify it. New flights should remain a fandom thing. As it is, dominance wise Beastclans already act as a 12th flight. Also if we add a new flight it just opens up the possibility of adding more flights down the line--when would it stop?
Holidays
With 11 flight festivals and December’s Night of the Nocturne event there is no room in the year to squeeze in another flight. Having multiple flights celebrate in the same month isn’t fair for either flight as most flights host celebrations of their holiday--usually it’s the week of the festival but there have been cases the week before has also been incorporated into the celebration. Having one festival in the beginning of a month and one festival at the end of the month means the flight who’s festival is at the beginning of the month would have to choose between effectively grinding for currency or effectively levelling exalt fodder. We don't need a December flight festival. Initially Ice’s holiday was in December but it was moved because the players didn’t want it interfering with real life commitments as generally December is a busy month. That’s one of the reasons NotN was decided to span two weeks.
Having the holidays overlap or only be a few days in sequence is even more unfair for the players of those flights as who would claim dominance for that week? In all cases, it would make getting enough festival currency difficult.
Coliseum and Dominance
It would involve having to rework the entire checks and balances of the elements--currently each flight has the same numbers of strengths and weaknesses. Even if it’s rebalanced it means players would have to relearn the element strengths and weaknesses.
Players already complain about how hard it is to grind for currency in the coliseum. New flights means new elements which means more enemies which means diluting the populations in the various sages which means its harder to grind for currency.
More flights means more competition for dominance. Some flights already have hard enough time getting dominance, adding more competition means that they’ll have an even harder time.
Lore
Adding a new flight generally would involve retconning the current lore, which I'd rather not happen. The Night of the Nocturne slips in well with the current lore and adds to it; it doesn’t involve twisting it or whatever. Also many of the new 12 flight suggestions already have ties into the existing flight lore.
--Metal -- Fire are the metal workers.
--Wood -- That’s nature’s flight
--Chaos -- That’s shadow’s thing
--Space -- Arcane’s thing
--Evil -- That’s the shade
--Knowledge -- Arcane and Light’s thing
--Time -- Too powerful of a concept. Nature and Plague were initially intended to be life and death but the concept was too big, so they changed it to aspects of that
Other Things
Unfair to players who’ve used their free flight change. They’ll have to pay to join this new flight that didn’t exist when they joined
Would involve redoing the map to fit them in - relatively minor thing but still
We already have 11 flights that’s a lot of choice to begin with--there are some flights with very small populations; we don’t need to further split ways to split populations.
Holidays
With 11 flight festivals and December’s Night of the Nocturne event there is no room in the year to squeeze in another flight. Having multiple flights celebrate in the same month isn’t fair for either flight as most flights host celebrations of their holiday--usually it’s the week of the festival but there have been cases the week before has also been incorporated into the celebration. Having one festival in the beginning of a month and one festival at the end of the month means the flight who’s festival is at the beginning of the month would have to choose between effectively grinding for currency or effectively levelling exalt fodder. We don't need a December flight festival. Initially Ice’s holiday was in December but it was moved because the players didn’t want it interfering with real life commitments as generally December is a busy month. That’s one of the reasons NotN was decided to span two weeks.
Having the holidays overlap or only be a few days in sequence is even more unfair for the players of those flights as who would claim dominance for that week? In all cases, it would make getting enough festival currency difficult.
Coliseum and Dominance
It would involve having to rework the entire checks and balances of the elements--currently each flight has the same numbers of strengths and weaknesses. Even if it’s rebalanced it means players would have to relearn the element strengths and weaknesses.
Players already complain about how hard it is to grind for currency in the coliseum. New flights means new elements which means more enemies which means diluting the populations in the various sages which means its harder to grind for currency.
More flights means more competition for dominance. Some flights already have hard enough time getting dominance, adding more competition means that they’ll have an even harder time.
Lore
Adding a new flight generally would involve retconning the current lore, which I'd rather not happen. The Night of the Nocturne slips in well with the current lore and adds to it; it doesn’t involve twisting it or whatever. Also many of the new 12 flight suggestions already have ties into the existing flight lore.
--Metal -- Fire are the metal workers.
--Wood -- That’s nature’s flight
--Chaos -- That’s shadow’s thing
--Space -- Arcane’s thing
--Evil -- That’s the shade
--Knowledge -- Arcane and Light’s thing
--Time -- Too powerful of a concept. Nature and Plague were initially intended to be life and death but the concept was too big, so they changed it to aspects of that
Other Things
Unfair to players who’ve used their free flight change. They’ll have to pay to join this new flight that didn’t exist when they joined
Would involve redoing the map to fit them in - relatively minor thing but still
We already have 11 flights that’s a lot of choice to begin with--there are some flights with very small populations; we don’t need to further split ways to split populations.
How would that be different from Lightweaver and Shadowbinder?
How would that be different from Lightweaver and Shadowbinder?
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How would that be different from Lightweaver and Shadowbinder?
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Exactly.
If we were to even think about a new flight I would go all for Beastclan instead of a new element.
Sopheroo wrote on 2016-02-12:
How would that be different from Lightweaver and Shadowbinder?
If we were to even think about a new flight I would go all for Beastclan instead of a new element.
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No support, for all the reasons listed above.
Dominance, difficulty inserting into the game...where would these flights get their members?? They'd be severely underpopulated, most likely. Too similar to Light and Shadow, and difficult to incorporate a festival.
Additionally, you would then need to change the coliseum to have enemies of these elements.
The gold and purple eye colors are already used by light and shadow, as well.
Dominance, difficulty inserting into the game...where would these flights get their members?? They'd be severely underpopulated, most likely. Too similar to Light and Shadow, and difficult to incorporate a festival.
Additionally, you would then need to change the coliseum to have enemies of these elements.
The gold and purple eye colors are already used by light and shadow, as well.
No support, for all the reasons listed above.
Dominance, difficulty inserting into the game...where would these flights get their members?? They'd be severely underpopulated, most likely. Too similar to Light and Shadow, and difficult to incorporate a festival.
Additionally, you would then need to change the coliseum to have enemies of these elements.
The gold and purple eye colors are already used by light and shadow, as well.
Dominance, difficulty inserting into the game...where would these flights get their members?? They'd be severely underpopulated, most likely. Too similar to Light and Shadow, and difficult to incorporate a festival.
Additionally, you would then need to change the coliseum to have enemies of these elements.
The gold and purple eye colors are already used by light and shadow, as well.
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No support for the reasons Dragonsage said. Plus there's no substance to this new flight at all.
No support for the reasons Dragonsage said. Plus there's no substance to this new flight at all.
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No support for new flights. While I can see the lore-need for more elements I think they should stay in a users lore and not be implemented into FR for reasons mentioned.
No support for new flights. While I can see the lore-need for more elements I think they should stay in a users lore and not be implemented into FR for reasons mentioned.
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This is very vaguely related to this suggestion, because reading through DragonSage's very well thought out post, I started brainstorming on how a new Flight sort of thing could be possible.
This is purely just wordvomitting and it's never going to happen but the idea is interesting to me:
What if there was a Holiday event of sort (possibly replaced NotN) where a random selection of lairs across the entire game were forcibly "converted" to the Shade Element? Story wise, perhaps the Shade descends again (-looks at the Arcanist seriously-) and takes root on the planet, basically "infecting" a random number of lairs.
Then the goal of the event is for all Flights to pull together to defeat the Shade -- possibly via a Dom Battle. Players trapped within the Shade Element would have to send their Exaltees to friends who are not part of the Shade, as Exalting Dergs to the Shade would only make it more powerful (plus it would be screwy to add another exaltation destination. one of the many ways this idea isn't going to happen lol). The Shade Element would start with x amount of "exalted dragon" points, and the 11 Flights would have to out-exalt the Shade as a combined effort.
That's just a basic idea. There should be items to collect, possibly some familiars, you know, incentive to play beyond the appeal of fighting the Shade.
Interesting to think about nonetheless. :b
This is purely just wordvomitting and it's never going to happen but the idea is interesting to me:
What if there was a Holiday event of sort (possibly replaced NotN) where a random selection of lairs across the entire game were forcibly "converted" to the Shade Element? Story wise, perhaps the Shade descends again (-looks at the Arcanist seriously-) and takes root on the planet, basically "infecting" a random number of lairs.
Then the goal of the event is for all Flights to pull together to defeat the Shade -- possibly via a Dom Battle. Players trapped within the Shade Element would have to send their Exaltees to friends who are not part of the Shade, as Exalting Dergs to the Shade would only make it more powerful (plus it would be screwy to add another exaltation destination. one of the many ways this idea isn't going to happen lol). The Shade Element would start with x amount of "exalted dragon" points, and the 11 Flights would have to out-exalt the Shade as a combined effort.
That's just a basic idea. There should be items to collect, possibly some familiars, you know, incentive to play beyond the appeal of fighting the Shade.
Interesting to think about nonetheless. :b
This is very vaguely related to this suggestion, because reading through DragonSage's very well thought out post, I started brainstorming on how a new Flight sort of thing could be possible.
This is purely just wordvomitting and it's never going to happen but the idea is interesting to me:
What if there was a Holiday event of sort (possibly replaced NotN) where a random selection of lairs across the entire game were forcibly "converted" to the Shade Element? Story wise, perhaps the Shade descends again (-looks at the Arcanist seriously-) and takes root on the planet, basically "infecting" a random number of lairs.
Then the goal of the event is for all Flights to pull together to defeat the Shade -- possibly via a Dom Battle. Players trapped within the Shade Element would have to send their Exaltees to friends who are not part of the Shade, as Exalting Dergs to the Shade would only make it more powerful (plus it would be screwy to add another exaltation destination. one of the many ways this idea isn't going to happen lol). The Shade Element would start with x amount of "exalted dragon" points, and the 11 Flights would have to out-exalt the Shade as a combined effort.
That's just a basic idea. There should be items to collect, possibly some familiars, you know, incentive to play beyond the appeal of fighting the Shade.
Interesting to think about nonetheless. :b
This is purely just wordvomitting and it's never going to happen but the idea is interesting to me:
What if there was a Holiday event of sort (possibly replaced NotN) where a random selection of lairs across the entire game were forcibly "converted" to the Shade Element? Story wise, perhaps the Shade descends again (-looks at the Arcanist seriously-) and takes root on the planet, basically "infecting" a random number of lairs.
Then the goal of the event is for all Flights to pull together to defeat the Shade -- possibly via a Dom Battle. Players trapped within the Shade Element would have to send their Exaltees to friends who are not part of the Shade, as Exalting Dergs to the Shade would only make it more powerful (plus it would be screwy to add another exaltation destination. one of the many ways this idea isn't going to happen lol). The Shade Element would start with x amount of "exalted dragon" points, and the 11 Flights would have to out-exalt the Shade as a combined effort.
That's just a basic idea. There should be items to collect, possibly some familiars, you know, incentive to play beyond the appeal of fighting the Shade.
Interesting to think about nonetheless. :b
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It has pretty much been said and I really can not add more to what Dragonsage has stated.
Sorry no support for a new element that players could belong to.
Just a few questions @blueravenclaw13
Did you put any thoughts into things like what would elemental attacks in the coliseum be?
How would Sun be different from light? How would moon be different from say Shadow?
If there was a new element introduced when would there be an elemental holiday to celebrate it? Since we have the Night of the Nocturne now in December we do not have any more room for a monthly holiday.
Just food for thought.
Sorry no support for a new element that players could belong to.
Just a few questions @blueravenclaw13
Did you put any thoughts into things like what would elemental attacks in the coliseum be?
How would Sun be different from light? How would moon be different from say Shadow?
If there was a new element introduced when would there be an elemental holiday to celebrate it? Since we have the Night of the Nocturne now in December we do not have any more room for a monthly holiday.
Just food for thought.
It has pretty much been said and I really can not add more to what Dragonsage has stated.
Sorry no support for a new element that players could belong to.
Just a few questions @blueravenclaw13
Did you put any thoughts into things like what would elemental attacks in the coliseum be?
How would Sun be different from light? How would moon be different from say Shadow?
If there was a new element introduced when would there be an elemental holiday to celebrate it? Since we have the Night of the Nocturne now in December we do not have any more room for a monthly holiday.
Just food for thought.
Sorry no support for a new element that players could belong to.
Just a few questions @blueravenclaw13
Did you put any thoughts into things like what would elemental attacks in the coliseum be?
How would Sun be different from light? How would moon be different from say Shadow?
If there was a new element introduced when would there be an elemental holiday to celebrate it? Since we have the Night of the Nocturne now in December we do not have any more room for a monthly holiday.
Just food for thought.
I would support a new element. I would not support it as a playable flight. A gem item to change a nest's element or a new element of unhatched eggs, maybe. Not a joinable faction.
I would support a new element. I would not support it as a playable flight. A gem item to change a nest's element or a new element of unhatched eggs, maybe. Not a joinable faction.