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TOPIC | Quality of life ah change.
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so i been thinking an i dunno if this suggestion as already been thought of or suggested but here we go.

so the ah with yes its update being really nice still lacks some things that could make using it much easier.

an one thing that would make it easier is stacked items.
Being able to list a full stack of items.
But people not having to fully buy the stack but a specific amount out of said stack.

say your looking for green ooze.
someone has it listed with a stack of 99 prized at 1g ea or 1000T ea.
you click on that can select the amount you want to buy.

Like say you just wanna buy 10.


I dunno what it take to put this in but it make things so much easier for buyers an sellers. Being able to list full stacks of items.
( i mean you can list full stacks of items but the likely hood of someone buying a full 99 stack of an item is not likely) Instead of 1 item at a time to get faster sale.

an for buyers not having to buy 10 separate listings to get what they need.
They can just shop from 1 listing, .

This would be most helpful with food/materials an other items. :)
an i think it would be a great addition to the ah.
an in general make it easier for people to sell stacks of items.

but yeah. ^^
so i been thinking an i dunno if this suggestion as already been thought of or suggested but here we go.

so the ah with yes its update being really nice still lacks some things that could make using it much easier.

an one thing that would make it easier is stacked items.
Being able to list a full stack of items.
But people not having to fully buy the stack but a specific amount out of said stack.

say your looking for green ooze.
someone has it listed with a stack of 99 prized at 1g ea or 1000T ea.
you click on that can select the amount you want to buy.

Like say you just wanna buy 10.


I dunno what it take to put this in but it make things so much easier for buyers an sellers. Being able to list full stacks of items.
( i mean you can list full stacks of items but the likely hood of someone buying a full 99 stack of an item is not likely) Instead of 1 item at a time to get faster sale.

an for buyers not having to buy 10 separate listings to get what they need.
They can just shop from 1 listing, .

This would be most helpful with food/materials an other items. :)
an i think it would be a great addition to the ah.
an in general make it easier for people to sell stacks of items.

but yeah. ^^
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If I'm selling a stack of something for cheaper per item than the single item price it's so the WHOLE STACK gets sold at once, not so people can cherry pick what they want and get it for less than buying individual listings, while I eat the auction fees 10 times for one AH listing.

All this would do is make sure nobody ever sells at a bulk discount to make one large sale instead of 99 small ones.

No support. What I listed is the amount I want to sell for the price I want to get in return, If it's not what a buyer wants they can buy from someone else.


If I'm selling a stack of something for cheaper per item than the single item price it's so the WHOLE STACK gets sold at once, not so people can cherry pick what they want and get it for less than buying individual listings, while I eat the auction fees 10 times for one AH listing.

All this would do is make sure nobody ever sells at a bulk discount to make one large sale instead of 99 small ones.

No support. What I listed is the amount I want to sell for the price I want to get in return, If it's not what a buyer wants they can buy from someone else.


@OfficerMittens support i always need some materials and people are only selling them in stacks of like 10 when i want 2.
@OfficerMittens support i always need some materials and people are only selling them in stacks of like 10 when i want 2.
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No support. If I'm selling a stack, I want the whole stack to go at once. If I want to sell in smaller groups I do that. This does nothing but hinder sellers.
No support. If I'm selling a stack, I want the whole stack to go at once. If I want to sell in smaller groups I do that. This does nothing but hinder sellers.
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[quote name="vihuff" date="2020-05-18 15:58:47" ] No support. If I'm selling a stack, I want the whole stack to go at once. If I want to sell in smaller groups I do that. This does nothing but hinder sellers. [/quote] Pretty much this. I can understand the frustration as a buyer, when you only need a certain amount and don't want/need more, but as a seller, I often will try to sell in stacks that I feel are closer to the amount usually needed, and thus I don't want a ton of stacks that people buy one or two items out of and then leave the rest, especially because that means if I put a stack of items on the AH that a trade (for example) uses that exact number, someone else can come along, buy one, and suddenly it is no longer the exact number needed, so I might miss out on a sale from someone who is looking to buy a stack of that exact number, rather than try to find individual pieces.
vihuff wrote on 2020-05-18 15:58:47:
No support. If I'm selling a stack, I want the whole stack to go at once. If I want to sell in smaller groups I do that. This does nothing but hinder sellers.
Pretty much this. I can understand the frustration as a buyer, when you only need a certain amount and don't want/need more, but as a seller, I often will try to sell in stacks that I feel are closer to the amount usually needed, and thus I don't want a ton of stacks that people buy one or two items out of and then leave the rest, especially because that means if I put a stack of items on the AH that a trade (for example) uses that exact number, someone else can come along, buy one, and suddenly it is no longer the exact number needed, so I might miss out on a sale from someone who is looking to buy a stack of that exact number, rather than try to find individual pieces.

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There are also practicality concerns here. Say you list a stack of 99 food for 10g. Someone only wants 50 of the stack. How would they even pay fairly, given that each item of food would cost .1010101[…]g? How would the system calculate the price the person who buys the rest has to pay? With treasure, there's calculating the AH tax that's a concern, and for gems, things are often listed where the per-unit price is less than a single unit of currency. I'm fairly sure restructuring the AH to allow partial sales like is being proposed would also require completely revamping the payment system to disallow or punish lower prices (for either the buyer or the seller).
There are also practicality concerns here. Say you list a stack of 99 food for 10g. Someone only wants 50 of the stack. How would they even pay fairly, given that each item of food would cost .1010101[…]g? How would the system calculate the price the person who buys the rest has to pay? With treasure, there's calculating the AH tax that's a concern, and for gems, things are often listed where the per-unit price is less than a single unit of currency. I'm fairly sure restructuring the AH to allow partial sales like is being proposed would also require completely revamping the payment system to disallow or punish lower prices (for either the buyer or the seller).
[quote name="PersimmonBird" date="2020-05-18 14:40:56" ] If I'm selling a stack of something for cheaper per item than the single item price it's so the WHOLE STACK gets sold at once, not so people can cherry pick what they want and get it for less than buying individual listings, while I eat the auction fees 10 times for one AH listing. All this would do is make sure nobody ever sells at a bulk discount to make one large sale instead of 99 small ones. No support. What I listed is the amount I want to sell for the price I want to get in return, If it's not what a buyer wants they can buy from someone else. [/quote] This explains it really, really well. If I am selling the whole stack at a better ratio than the folks who have listed smaller stacks, it is because I want to make it more enticing to buy all of mine at once. I have also bought items in much larger stacks than I needed due to convenience or knowing the ratio was better and it would pay off in the longterm. There are a lot of logistical concerns with this, like how this would work with fractions of gems/etc. Unfortunately, no support from me.
PersimmonBird wrote on 2020-05-18 14:40:56:
If I'm selling a stack of something for cheaper per item than the single item price it's so the WHOLE STACK gets sold at once, not so people can cherry pick what they want and get it for less than buying individual listings, while I eat the auction fees 10 times for one AH listing.

All this would do is make sure nobody ever sells at a bulk discount to make one large sale instead of 99 small ones.

No support. What I listed is the amount I want to sell for the price I want to get in return, If it's not what a buyer wants they can buy from someone else.

This explains it really, really well. If I am selling the whole stack at a better ratio than the folks who have listed smaller stacks, it is because I want to make it more enticing to buy all of mine at once. I have also bought items in much larger stacks than I needed due to convenience or knowing the ratio was better and it would pay off in the longterm.

There are a lot of logistical concerns with this, like how this would work with fractions of gems/etc. Unfortunately, no support from me.
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Selling in lower quantities is more of a hassle for the seller because you're not moving items as quickly. That's why lower quantities are priced higher. This inconvenience would not be eliminated by your suggestion, instead sellers would be left with partial stacks in their inventories that they'd have to recombine to relist. This suggestion removes any way for sellers to be compensated for that inconvenience.

If you want to buy at lower quantities, you generally have to deal with higher prices. This is true for just about everything in life.

This is like asking why you can't bust open a package of something at the store because you don't want the hassle of measuring out what you want in the bulk section. That's not how the items were intended to be sold.

Most items that are generally in demand ALREADY get listed in small quantities, usually as 1g bundles. If items (most often obscure materials without use) aren't listed at low quantities, it's probably because people generally don't buy them at those quantities, or at all. In those cases, it's 100% understandable that sellers are unwilling to put too much effort into listing convenient quantities for items that don't sell, and it's unfair to ask them to instead deal with partial stacks that they have to manually vault and unvault to recombine to relist.
Selling in lower quantities is more of a hassle for the seller because you're not moving items as quickly. That's why lower quantities are priced higher. This inconvenience would not be eliminated by your suggestion, instead sellers would be left with partial stacks in their inventories that they'd have to recombine to relist. This suggestion removes any way for sellers to be compensated for that inconvenience.

If you want to buy at lower quantities, you generally have to deal with higher prices. This is true for just about everything in life.

This is like asking why you can't bust open a package of something at the store because you don't want the hassle of measuring out what you want in the bulk section. That's not how the items were intended to be sold.

Most items that are generally in demand ALREADY get listed in small quantities, usually as 1g bundles. If items (most often obscure materials without use) aren't listed at low quantities, it's probably because people generally don't buy them at those quantities, or at all. In those cases, it's 100% understandable that sellers are unwilling to put too much effort into listing convenient quantities for items that don't sell, and it's unfair to ask them to instead deal with partial stacks that they have to manually vault and unvault to recombine to relist.
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I'd be all for a complete overhaul of commodities that includes this. List something for sale at a rate, any quantity. All of it gets added to the pool of that commodity for sale. Buyer inputs how much quantity they want to buy, then gets a calculated price and can decide to fulfill it. If they commit to buying, some of the commodity listed at the cheapest rate are sold; there are various ways to allot which players' commodity is sold.

Steam and Guild Wars 2 are two markets that come to mind for this.

That is a buyer would see something like this:
  • 5 Sand available for 300 treasure each
  • 47 sand available for 320 treasure each
  • 200 sand available for 350 treasure each
  • 500 sand available for 400 treasure each

If they buy 99 sand, then they pay (5 * 300) + (47 * 320) + (42 * 350) treasure.
I'd be all for a complete overhaul of commodities that includes this. List something for sale at a rate, any quantity. All of it gets added to the pool of that commodity for sale. Buyer inputs how much quantity they want to buy, then gets a calculated price and can decide to fulfill it. If they commit to buying, some of the commodity listed at the cheapest rate are sold; there are various ways to allot which players' commodity is sold.

Steam and Guild Wars 2 are two markets that come to mind for this.

That is a buyer would see something like this:
  • 5 Sand available for 300 treasure each
  • 47 sand available for 320 treasure each
  • 200 sand available for 350 treasure each
  • 500 sand available for 400 treasure each

If they buy 99 sand, then they pay (5 * 300) + (47 * 320) + (42 * 350) treasure.
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Wouldn't it be the other way round? As in the more of a commodity someone buys, the cheaper it is per unit?

Maybe I'm not totally understanding...

@Dagomor

Wouldn't it be the other way round? As in the more of a commodity someone buys, the cheaper it is per unit?

Maybe I'm not totally understanding...

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