Ahoj o/
Per usual this might have already been suggested but I couldn't find anything.
As per title, my suggestion is adding another forum for Cross-site trades.
Trades between games, trades that want/sell a thing from FR and offer/want something from somewhere else that is not FR but something similar.
So FR to Other site items and services and nothing more.
Let's start with the reason for this suggestion.
Currently this Dappervolk thing is the hype (for everyone who plays it) and is clogging up the Item Sale Forum.
By the time I wrote this there were 29 posts on the first page and over half of them were for DV related trades/services/similar.
I would to mention here:
This is nothing against DV! I sometimes see cross-site trading posts for other pet-pages like Chickensmoothie and thought this is a good time to suggest this as many more are aware of it. I myself started FR through a different pet page.
So you're just annoyed?
Not just, but yes it annoys me and surely some others as well.
This is not a rant. People can play what they want and if they want to combine it then there is nothing wrong with it.
Forums are already a hard place to sell stuff since there are a ton of posts. In the prime time (which is nighttime for me) you post something, sneeze and be 3 pages in the back where no one looks ever.
And even if it is temporally, because of it being new and the hype, it buries the few FR only sales that are there.
Yes, I sort of want them out of my sight as I have no relation to it and do my FR only business. But I also want them to have a place where they can do their thing. For me it is similar to art sales. They have their place and it is unlikely that I will ever trespass on their ground.
Wouldn't a megathread also be enough?
Maybe. But with all sales in different kind of things, everyone wants their post to be seen of course.
I personally don't look at megathreads because they are usually unattanded and an utter mess.
An official megathread (or even a pinned one made by a user) is no option as this would mean that FR officially supports cross-site trading, which is not the case.
Search function? You able to use that?
A pro argument for a user-maintained megathread would be the search function.
My personal problem is that I do know how the search works and for specific things I use it. But I dislike it.
You can search for a specific word so one typo and no one sees your post.
You can sort by the most relevant (the default) but what is relevant? How is onw potato post more relevant than the other??
You can sort by most recent so older posts are doomed to be dead and everyone is forced to post again and again, the same stuff to be the most recent. Posts that would be a "permanent" services are useless and impossible. Hence why I call them an utter mess.
Is this in terms with FR rules and stuff?
As far as I read it yes. It is in terms if both sites allow it, but it is not supported. If you mess up and someone takes your gems without giving you anything it is your fault. Here is the post about Cross-site trading if you're interested.
Although I have already seen posts asking for other site items in exchange for other site items. So no FR items involved at all ... those are technically disallowed tbh.
This is not a suggestion to officially support cross-site trades. Those are always on the players own risk. I just think it might be good to channel all of those at one place.
Again the example of the art sales: If you mess up there it is also your fault and they still have their own subforum.
Let's compare it to art for currency trades
Is that even possible? Of course! Since both are sort of on the same plane. Both are technically unsupported by FR. The guidelines only state what kind of art is forbidden to be displayed.
Art does fall under the categories:
Any virtual currency that can be converted to real world currency.
But art does have its own forum and it's working good.
It didn't encourage me out of the blue to buy/create art just because it exists. It only made me aware of its existence and that I'm happy people have their separate space to do that particular business. Trading between petpages is sort of buying art but under different rules and rights.
The game is just a hype now that will die down soon.
Wouldn't the forum be vacant then?
No. There are always a few people who are selling/searching for cross-site business. All in all I would say it could actually be encouraging to do business at all since they can do so in peace.
There are forums here who are barely ever used like the elemental ones (except dom mostly) and the introductions. I joined in 2016 and haven't looked at the introductions since then.
Everyone has the one or other forum kind they never look at and every to often a forum slows down just to gain full speed again when something new comes out.
Update 1: Dv has been around for a month now and it didn't die down at all. I dare say it got even worse after people noticed that you can make easy cash with it (seemingly) and only joined to do just that.
I also already got PMed to join and this is going too far.
Update 2: Two months since it's launch and it actually got worse. It's not 100% V threads, no. But some threads don't even bother telling you that it is one! It's as if the people just plainly assume that the forum for FLIGHT RISING trades are now cross-side trades per default. This must be stopped :(
Why not send a suggestion through the Support form?
I did and also received an answer. They are aware of the situation but can't tell us if something will be done about it or how. That was to be expected as concrete answers and promises can backfire.
I assume they currently get a lot of suggestions/complaints about that topic so we can at least be assured that they don't simply ignore it until it resolves itself somehow. This is not a call that all of you should send that suggestion to them!
Until something happens in any form to solve the issue this thread will stay so people can show their support.
Update 2.1: With two months in and absolutely no official word from them it already feels like they really try to sit it out, seeing if it just disappears. Well it won't FR.
Well that's it for me for now.
If I get new ideas or explanations for my opinion I'll update this post.
Feel free to discuss whether this could be useful or not.
Please be reasonable and don't just say you don't care and we shouldn't whine.
Other suggestions posts for this:
Another addressing the issue from Nightsorrow: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2884187
A suggestion asking for a thread with some discussion about the topic: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2882137/1
Per usual this might have already been suggested but I couldn't find anything.
As per title, my suggestion is adding another forum for Cross-site trades.
Trades between games, trades that want/sell a thing from FR and offer/want something from somewhere else that is not FR but something similar.
So FR to Other site items and services and nothing more.
Let's start with the reason for this suggestion.
Currently this Dappervolk thing is the hype (for everyone who plays it) and is clogging up the Item Sale Forum.
By the time I wrote this there were 29 posts on the first page and over half of them were for DV related trades/services/similar.
I would to mention here:
This is nothing against DV! I sometimes see cross-site trading posts for other pet-pages like Chickensmoothie and thought this is a good time to suggest this as many more are aware of it. I myself started FR through a different pet page.
So you're just annoyed?
Not just, but yes it annoys me and surely some others as well.
This is not a rant. People can play what they want and if they want to combine it then there is nothing wrong with it.
Forums are already a hard place to sell stuff since there are a ton of posts. In the prime time (which is nighttime for me) you post something, sneeze and be 3 pages in the back where no one looks ever.
And even if it is temporally, because of it being new and the hype, it buries the few FR only sales that are there.
Yes, I sort of want them out of my sight as I have no relation to it and do my FR only business. But I also want them to have a place where they can do their thing. For me it is similar to art sales. They have their place and it is unlikely that I will ever trespass on their ground.
Wouldn't a megathread also be enough?
Maybe. But with all sales in different kind of things, everyone wants their post to be seen of course.
I personally don't look at megathreads because they are usually unattanded and an utter mess.
An official megathread (or even a pinned one made by a user) is no option as this would mean that FR officially supports cross-site trading, which is not the case.
Search function? You able to use that?
A pro argument for a user-maintained megathread would be the search function.
My personal problem is that I do know how the search works and for specific things I use it. But I dislike it.
You can search for a specific word so one typo and no one sees your post.
You can sort by the most relevant (the default) but what is relevant? How is onw potato post more relevant than the other??
You can sort by most recent so older posts are doomed to be dead and everyone is forced to post again and again, the same stuff to be the most recent. Posts that would be a "permanent" services are useless and impossible. Hence why I call them an utter mess.
Is this in terms with FR rules and stuff?
As far as I read it yes. It is in terms if both sites allow it, but it is not supported. If you mess up and someone takes your gems without giving you anything it is your fault. Here is the post about Cross-site trading if you're interested.
Although I have already seen posts asking for other site items in exchange for other site items. So no FR items involved at all ... those are technically disallowed tbh.
This is not a suggestion to officially support cross-site trades. Those are always on the players own risk. I just think it might be good to channel all of those at one place.
Again the example of the art sales: If you mess up there it is also your fault and they still have their own subforum.
Let's compare it to art for currency trades
Is that even possible? Of course! Since both are sort of on the same plane. Both are technically unsupported by FR. The guidelines only state what kind of art is forbidden to be displayed.
Art does fall under the categories:
Any virtual currency that can be converted to real world currency.
And item/dragon search-threads do accept art as a sort of payment.
Tangible items with real-world currency value.
Virtual art may not be tangible as an item to touch, but it has real-world currency value. In fact people offer their art sometimes for gems/treasure and paypal (or similar). Art pieces can also be printed out making them tangible.
But art does have its own forum and it's working good.
It didn't encourage me out of the blue to buy/create art just because it exists. It only made me aware of its existence and that I'm happy people have their separate space to do that particular business. Trading between petpages is sort of buying art but under different rules and rights.
The game is just a hype now that will die down soon.
Wouldn't the forum be vacant then?
No. There are always a few people who are selling/searching for cross-site business. All in all I would say it could actually be encouraging to do business at all since they can do so in peace.
There are forums here who are barely ever used like the elemental ones (except dom mostly) and the introductions. I joined in 2016 and haven't looked at the introductions since then.
Everyone has the one or other forum kind they never look at and every to often a forum slows down just to gain full speed again when something new comes out.
Update 1: Dv has been around for a month now and it didn't die down at all. I dare say it got even worse after people noticed that you can make easy cash with it (seemingly) and only joined to do just that.
I also already got PMed to join and this is going too far.
Update 2: Two months since it's launch and it actually got worse. It's not 100% V threads, no. But some threads don't even bother telling you that it is one! It's as if the people just plainly assume that the forum for FLIGHT RISING trades are now cross-side trades per default. This must be stopped :(
Why not send a suggestion through the Support form?
I did and also received an answer. They are aware of the situation but can't tell us if something will be done about it or how. That was to be expected as concrete answers and promises can backfire.
Until something happens in any form to solve the issue this thread will stay so people can show their support.
Update 2.1: With two months in and absolutely no official word from them it already feels like they really try to sit it out, seeing if it just disappears. Well it won't FR.
Well that's it for me for now.
If I get new ideas or explanations for my opinion I'll update this post.
Feel free to discuss whether this could be useful or not.
Please be reasonable and don't just say you don't care and we shouldn't whine.
Other suggestions posts for this:
Another addressing the issue from Nightsorrow: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2884187
A suggestion asking for a thread with some discussion about the topic: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2882137/1
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