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TOPIC | Shrink or toggle familiars
I don't know if this has been suggested or not yet, but, I've seen some people feel the same as I do that the familiar is too large or distracting.
I have familiars on my dragons purely for the functionality. Before I didn't really have to look at them. Now they're right next to my dragon and it's detracting and ugly and takes focus away from them.
Could we please get a toggle to show or hide them, or at least shrink them?
I don't know if this has been suggested or not yet, but, I've seen some people feel the same as I do that the familiar is too large or distracting.
I have familiars on my dragons purely for the functionality. Before I didn't really have to look at them. Now they're right next to my dragon and it's detracting and ugly and takes focus away from them.
Could we please get a toggle to show or hide them, or at least shrink them?
(This needs to be updated but I am lazy)
yeah i support!! i think making it smaller would still not be good tho.. they just look too weird out of the box for me. so i'd rather they give us a toggle button for them like you said, it would help alot. switching the familiar with the dragon info box (so its back the way it was before... perfectly ok lol) would be very awesome
yeah i support!! i think making it smaller would still not be good tho.. they just look too weird out of the box for me. so i'd rather they give us a toggle button for them like you said, it would help alot. switching the familiar with the dragon info box (so its back the way it was before... perfectly ok lol) would be very awesome
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I can see why people would want the familiars to stay where they are. If you have a matching familiar it could look nice, but.. if you're using the familiars like most of us are, for chests, then you're not leaving one matching familiar on them.
A toggle would probably be best to hide them if we don't want to see them.
(I fear I might have posted this too late to get much attention though).
I can see why people would want the familiars to stay where they are. If you have a matching familiar it could look nice, but.. if you're using the familiars like most of us are, for chests, then you're not leaving one matching familiar on them.
A toggle would probably be best to hide them if we don't want to see them.
(I fear I might have posted this too late to get much attention though).
(This needs to be updated but I am lazy)
No support except perhaps for a toggle to not display familiars (although toggles come with their own set of coding issues...)

Fun fact! The familiars are exactly the same size as they were in their previous box. They only appear larger due to being more directly contrasted against the dragon they're attached to. So no support for shrinking them either as they are exactly the same size as they were before and because smaller images can be extremely hard to parse on certain screens or for those with visual difficulties.
No support except perhaps for a toggle to not display familiars (although toggles come with their own set of coding issues...)

Fun fact! The familiars are exactly the same size as they were in their previous box. They only appear larger due to being more directly contrasted against the dragon they're attached to. So no support for shrinking them either as they are exactly the same size as they were before and because smaller images can be extremely hard to parse on certain screens or for those with visual difficulties.
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I'm a bit torn on this. First of all, I totally see the problem and I'm all for a solution - I'm in the progress of switching several familiars because they just don't fit any longer or look too clunky. On the one hand I can't really support shrinking them, as I'd love to enjoy their artwork in the original size and I'm not sure if shrunken familiars would look good at all. Also, I do think the main problem is not their size but that there is [i]too little distance[/i] between dragon and familiar, so I'd rather suggest increasing the space between them. However, on the other hand, this seems problematic too, because it probably wouldn't work well with the new design, as the dragon is supposed to be placed right in the centre. So yeah, I don't really have a good solution, but apart from that I'm always supporting toggle/hide options of course :) Also, this might fit the topic as well, copied from the "Update: Dragon Profile Revamp" thread: [quote name="artemiswanderer" date="2020-06-24 20:28:39" ] [quote name="RSPretzel" date="2020-06-24 19:57:24" ] [snip] My only issue with it now is..... the proximity of the familiars...... It looks perfectly fine with a lot of dragon and familiar combos, but some others..... [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345713174265331713/725542674743951380/Untitled.png[/img] Maybe getting a little TOO familiar there............ I like the location choice for the sake of seeing the dragon and familiar together, but maybe a "Hide Familiar" button so we can see just the dragon without a magical butt in its face? And even when the pairing isn't quite so up close and personal, it would be nice to be able get a good clean view of the dragon regardless. Besides that, I have no other comments other than great job!! [/quote] My progen has that same problem. [emoji=guardian scared size=2] Perhaps shrinking the familiar would help?? Not really sure. [img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/2ce4ed46ee9cc65663ca38b58e584b68/e6f4dea1757d1a7d-69/s540x810/48096f20b4193d5ad35b60d5c66011d4a8aa9aca.png[/img] [/quote] It just ... doesn't look good. =/
I'm a bit torn on this. First of all, I totally see the problem and I'm all for a solution - I'm in the progress of switching several familiars because they just don't fit any longer or look too clunky.

On the one hand I can't really support shrinking them, as I'd love to enjoy their artwork in the original size and I'm not sure if shrunken familiars would look good at all. Also, I do think the main problem is not their size but that there is too little distance between dragon and familiar, so I'd rather suggest increasing the space between them. However, on the other hand, this seems problematic too, because it probably wouldn't work well with the new design, as the dragon is supposed to be placed right in the centre.

So yeah, I don't really have a good solution, but apart from that I'm always supporting toggle/hide options of course :)

Also, this might fit the topic as well, copied from the "Update: Dragon Profile Revamp" thread:
artemiswanderer wrote on 2020-06-24 20:28:39:
RSPretzel wrote on 2020-06-24 19:57:24:
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My only issue with it now is..... the proximity of the familiars...... It looks perfectly fine with a lot of dragon and familiar combos, but some others.....

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Maybe getting a little TOO familiar there............

I like the location choice for the sake of seeing the dragon and familiar together, but maybe a "Hide Familiar" button so we can see just the dragon without a magical butt in its face? And even when the pairing isn't quite so up close and personal, it would be nice to be able get a good clean view of the dragon regardless.

Besides that, I have no other comments other than great job!!


My progen has that same problem. Perhaps shrinking the familiar would help?? Not really sure.

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It just ... doesn't look good. =/
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@Twizz I know they are the same size, but before they weren't on the same line as the dragon, so they weren't visually competing with it.
I really just want to be able to not have to look at them, while still being able to use them for chests.

That's why I think these whole profiles would've been better if it was a widget system where you can choose what you want where, but a toggle to hide is probably easier since they already put toggles for other things in the profile.
@Twizz I know they are the same size, but before they weren't on the same line as the dragon, so they weren't visually competing with it.
I really just want to be able to not have to look at them, while still being able to use them for chests.

That's why I think these whole profiles would've been better if it was a widget system where you can choose what you want where, but a toggle to hide is probably easier since they already put toggles for other things in the profile.
(This needs to be updated but I am lazy)
Support! I like the concept of being able to have a dragon’s familiar near the dragon. However, like others above have said, most of my dragons have random familiars attached to them for the purpose of bonding. They’re ugly don’t actually match the dragon and I don’t want to see them. I would love to be able to toggle!
Support! I like the concept of being able to have a dragon’s familiar near the dragon. However, like others above have said, most of my dragons have random familiars attached to them for the purpose of bonding. They’re ugly don’t actually match the dragon and I don’t want to see them. I would love to be able to toggle!
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Pulling this back up, as it's still an issue.
Pulling this back up, as it's still an issue.
(This needs to be updated but I am lazy)
[quote name="Luunai" date="2020-06-28 06:42:23" ] I'm a bit torn on this. First of all, I totally see the problem and I'm all for a solution - I'm in the progress of switching several familiars because they just don't fit any longer or look too clunky. On the one hand I can't really support shrinking them, as I'd love to enjoy their artwork in the original size and I'm not sure if shrunken familiars would look good at all. Also, I do think the main problem is not their size but that there is [i]too little distance[/i] between dragon and familiar, so I'd rather suggest increasing the space between them.[/quote] This was a really great suggestion! I don't see the dragon 'needing' to be in the center as a problem. Honestly the problem is visual weight. The dragon IS in the centre, but because of how little space there is between dragon and familiar, and familiar and edge of page, all the dragons visual weight is on the right side of the page. It's unbalanced. Increasing the space between the dragon and the familiar would help, but if they are supposed to be placed in a scene (I am taking it that way since the introduction of literal scenes) the dragon and the familiar should BOTH feel centred (as in that the balance between them is more equal, not that the familiar should also be in the Actual centre of the page). At the very least keep the margins between the dragon and the edge of the page consistent after increasing them. Back to the topic at hand... a toggle is a great idea! I love familiars, and I personally love the fact that they're now side-by-side, but I'm a firm believer in choice. Support!
Luunai wrote on 2020-06-28 06:42:23:
I'm a bit torn on this. First of all, I totally see the problem and I'm all for a solution - I'm in the progress of switching several familiars because they just don't fit any longer or look too clunky.

On the one hand I can't really support shrinking them, as I'd love to enjoy their artwork in the original size and I'm not sure if shrunken familiars would look good at all. Also, I do think the main problem is not their size but that there is too little distance between dragon and familiar, so I'd rather suggest increasing the space between them.

This was a really great suggestion! I don't see the dragon 'needing' to be in the center as a problem. Honestly the problem is visual weight. The dragon IS in the centre, but because of how little space there is between dragon and familiar, and familiar and edge of page, all the dragons visual weight is on the right side of the page. It's unbalanced.

Increasing the space between the dragon and the familiar would help, but if they are supposed to be placed in a scene (I am taking it that way since the introduction of literal scenes) the dragon and the familiar should BOTH feel centred (as in that the balance between them is more equal, not that the familiar should also be in the Actual centre of the page). At the very least keep the margins between the dragon and the edge of the page consistent after increasing them.


Back to the topic at hand... a toggle is a great idea! I love familiars, and I personally love the fact that they're now side-by-side, but I'm a firm believer in choice. Support!

Support. The scale between the dragons & the familiars seems way off now.
I know I don't want it a 1:1 'realistic' scale because then most of the familiars would be teeny tiny next to the dragons and they couldn't be seen, but I'm thrown off by how big they appear to be now. (I know they're the same size as before, but they LOOK bigger)

Maybe a little more space between them would help as noted above.

I wouldn't use the toggle off on the familiars. Of course I use them for chests, but for my main dragons they're chosen for lore reasons or aesthetics to match the dragon.
The aesthetics is different now as some dragons have their backs turned on their familiars and some *coughmalemirrorscough* are a little too familiar ....

Support. The scale between the dragons & the familiars seems way off now.
I know I don't want it a 1:1 'realistic' scale because then most of the familiars would be teeny tiny next to the dragons and they couldn't be seen, but I'm thrown off by how big they appear to be now. (I know they're the same size as before, but they LOOK bigger)

Maybe a little more space between them would help as noted above.

I wouldn't use the toggle off on the familiars. Of course I use them for chests, but for my main dragons they're chosen for lore reasons or aesthetics to match the dragon.
The aesthetics is different now as some dragons have their backs turned on their familiars and some *coughmalemirrorscough* are a little too familiar ....