Suggestions

[center]I had an idea that IDK if anyone would actually consider implementing. I don't know if they've officially ever stated that they wouldn't do something like this before. Tell me if they have and that my idea is dumb. But currently, there's no official safe way to rent nests. You have to ask in the forums and pray that whoever you send your dragons to doesn't keep or change or sell them or hold them ransom or something, because official rules state that once you sell or crossroads a dragon away that the other user owns them and can do whatever they want with them. And I'm not accusing anyone of having bad intentions, but you never know, and the rules are set up in favor of this bad-faithy transaction. You'd have to submit an appeal and that just takes up staff's valuable time and attention, and you may even lose out on it because the rules are not in your favor. So I was thinking they could add a 6th nest for all users, that you could change to be any flight you want, as many times as you want. To change it, there would be a fee every time (100g ot 100kt or something) and it could only be changed while empty. Maybe there's a cooldown to how often you can change it's element to keep it balanced. It could only be purchased after your nesting grounds have all 5 of the normal nests unlocked, and probably be quite expensive. Each user could only have one of these "elemental" nests. But it would be a safe way to breed dragons to have an eye element that's not your current flight. As [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/ann/3004107#post_3004107]Undel stated today in the Eye Spy Redux announcement[/url] [img]https://i.imgur.com/0LY7e06.png[/img] But as it stands right now, you cannot get a dragon with a specific eye type without either changing your flight (which is very expensive and has a long cooldown), renting a nest from a user in your desired flight (which is not safe and there's no official rental system) or just searching the AH and forums looking for a dragon with the right genes/colors/eyes to just buy from another user, (which is not you "crafting your perfect dragon" it is you waiting for someone else to breed a work-able dragon.) An alternative to this would be a similar concept, where there is an NPC or official rental service programmed into the site that is safe to use that guarantees you get your dragons and hatchlings back where you can nest one pair of dragons at a time in a nest of your choosing. This would probably cost a fee every time you use the service and maybe have a cooldown, and function very similarly to the 6th "elemental" nest concept listed above.[/center]

I will always stand by ideas like this. With oldies and pricey G1 breeding pairs nest rental from other users becomes too dangerous. Whether from actual stealing or simply unforseen consequences pairs can too easily be lost to another lair.


In reply to the above post: It wouldn't invalidate flight changes though. People change for many reasons, not all for breeding. Forums are a huge part of flight changes because each flight attracts different people.

@Vinnamah
There's a very recent suggestions thread for this here with a lot of responses already:
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2452631/5#post_47460786

Rather than an extra nest or the complexities of nest rental, a 'magical' item to temporarily change the element of a nest is simple, a solid potential treasure sink, and canon-compliant.

[quote name="Corviknight" date="2021-05-10 12:14:13" ] You're not allowed to bump in this forum. But no support. That would make flight changes completely useless - people would hop on whoever has dom the most, and just switch that 6th nest as much as they want to get the actual eyes they want. [/quote] 1) I don't see anything against bumping a topic anywhere in the [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2369632]Suggestions Forum Policy[/url] but feel free to show me where it says so if I missed it. 2) This would not make flight changes useless. This would be ONE nest you could use at a time, and cost a fee to change which flight the nest is in every time. There could even be a cooldown. And flight changes are already very expensive and have a long cooldown as it is, which implies that you're not meant to change flights frequently. Changing flights was not meant to be a way to get the correct eyes on your breeding project, and very few people (if any) actually do that. Most people just use nest rentals on the forums. My suggestion is just to make a safe, official way to be able to get a different flight's eyes for breeding projects, without having to rent from other players and risk a bad-faith trade or some kind of accident. If people want a majority of their hatchlings to have ice eyes, they would still change to ice flight, because they'd have those 5 ice nests. This one extra nest, or rental NPC, or however else this theoretically get implemented, shouldn't unbalance anything. It would be one nest, and to change the flight of that nest would cost a fee every time. People already do nest rentals now in the forums. My suggestion would just make a safe, official way to do that instead of having to run the risk of doung such rentals with other players you find on the forums. And the current unofficial nest rentals you find on the forums don't unbalance anything!

[quote name="Vendrus" date="2021-05-10 12:24:23" ] @Vinnamah There's a very recent suggestions thread for this here with a lot of responses already: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2452631/5#post_47460786 Rather than an extra nest or the complexities of nest rental, a 'magical' item to temporarily change the element of a nest is simple, a solid potential treasure sink, and canon-compliant. [/quote] I still think my idea works better. Having one designated nest whose flight you can change is simpler and more balanced. What is to prevent someone from buying 5 flight-change items and using them all at once? Having one designated nest limits users to only having one nest at a time that is not their home flight's colors. It would still be a treasure/gem sink with the fee to change the flight, and/or there could be a fee to use it each time. The ideas are very similar. The difference is that my idea limits the temporary flight change to one nest, in order to keep things from becoming unbalanced. And I don't see how my idea is not canon-compliant. They could explain it away as a magical item that changes this nest's flight, or maybe the nest itself is constructed of different magical materials from different flights (and buying these items to change the nest is how they explain the fee to change flights and/or use the nest). Or we have an NPC that functions similarly, where they have connections in all 11 flights, and your breeding pair goes off with the NPC to a nest in the desired flight to nest there.

support! even if the thread vendrus linked works too i think a new npc would be more exciting. PLUS the 6th nest could be added with the nesting grounds revamp itself!

100% support. [quote name="Corviknight" date="2021-05-10 12:14:13" ] You're not allowed to bump in this forum. But no support. That would make flight changes completely useless - people would hop on whoever has dom the most, and just switch that 6th nest as much as they want to get the actual eyes they want. [/quote] It wouldn't, since every other nest would still be your main flight's type. You'd be crazy to go to Earth flight for the dominance wanting only Ice eyes and counting on only one out of six nests to do that for you. Also, people did this in any numbers, Earth would no longer be the go-to dom flight and they'd all have just wasted all those gems. I do think it should cost more than 100 gems to switch the nest though. I say it should cost the same to swap as to swap your flight.

[quote name="Vinnamah" date="2021-05-10 12:30:07" ] [quote name="Corviknight" date="2021-05-10 12:14:13" ] You're not allowed to bump in this forum. But no support. That would make flight changes completely useless - people [quote][/quote]would hop on whoever has dom the most, and just switch that 6th nest as much as they want to get the actual eyes they want. [/quote] 1) I don't see anything against bumping a topic anywhere in the [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/sug/2369632]Suggestions Forum Policy[/url] but feel free to show me where it says so if I missed it. [/quote] It’s in the welcome to the forums topic in the rules and policies article under spam [quote] Bumping threads in discussion forums. Bumping is when a player keeps their thread at the top of a forum by posting content-less replies. It falls under bumping regardless of whether or not the reply bumping the thread is deleted. The following Sales forums are exempt from the bumping policy: Dragons for Sale Items for Sale Flight Sales Art Sales Raffles & Giveaways Dragon Trading Find a Dragon[/quote] I prefer the add an item to temporarily change a nest’s element over a sixth nest simply because a sixth nest means more dragons hatching. Not everyone uses unsupported nest rentals and event though unsupported nest rental is frequently done it takes a player’s nest up.