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TOPIC | Toggle the ‘First Gen’ on hover t
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This is what I am talking about. [img]https://i.ibb.co/z70fm7d/Jaz.png[/img] Where it lists parents names or says First Generation on a Gen 1 it has First Generation bolded and highlighted while dragons that have parents are not bolded. My suggestion is to unbold that text and make it plain black, exactly like the dragons with parents only it would still say First Generation. When moving my mouse over my dragons I keep stopping at the Gen 1s because the bold draws my eyes. It's irritating. My First Generation dragons are no better then the not Gen 1s so why do they have this strange little status symbol? [s]For those who seem to think I don’t know why Gen 1s are considered functional ‘special’[/s] Someone finally gave me a good goddam answer that wasn't they [i]special[/i] (no elaboration) or they can breed with any other dragon on the site and isn't that [i]unique[/i](its not). I will stop arguing 'Gen1s shouldn't have the bolded symbol' line. However, this does not change the fact that I want this turned off or turned down at least for my dragons. [b]Edit[/b]: I am changing this last paragraph since was only meant to be a wrap up and I have additional solutions that others have come up with or helped me come up with. [b]Solutions[/b] Toggle option. Let me choose to toggle off. This would effect people viewing my lair/Hibden as well since I do not want anyone else to view any dragon more special then others without a mark from me personally. Default would remain red bold so again Gen1 community remains unaffected. Make the speciality symbol actually mean something. Have to where any dragon that can breed with any other dragon on the site have a bold red symbol. Including those that are gen2+ but all relations are exalted. Gen 1s that have been bred will then lose their bold red unless all children get exalted. This would actually help me as a breeder and the Gen1 collectors are unaffected. [s]Have to where any dragon that can breed with any other dragon on the site have a bold red symbol. Including those that are gen2+ but all relations are exalted. Gen 1s that have been bred will then lose their bold red unless all children get exalted. This would actually help me as a breeder and the Gen1 collectors are unaffected. [/s] I still like this idea because as a breeder it would be of some use to me, but slashed because toggle has replaced this as primary solution, and I know anyone that posts after this will only comment on this one thing if I don't so Take off red and keep bold. Take off red and italicize it. Edit: I am still leaving this because I will stand by that the red is too obnoxious. bolding or italicized would still would separate it from dragons with First and Generation for their parents. [i]More edits[/i]
This is what I am talking about.
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Where it lists parents names or says First Generation on a Gen 1 it has First Generation bolded and highlighted while dragons that have parents are not bolded. My suggestion is to unbold that text and make it plain black, exactly like the dragons with parents only it would still say First Generation. When moving my mouse over my dragons I keep stopping at the Gen 1s because the bold draws my eyes. It's irritating. My First Generation dragons are no better then the not Gen 1s so why do they have this strange little status symbol?

For those who seem to think I don’t know why Gen 1s are considered functional ‘special’ Someone finally gave me a good goddam answer that wasn't they special (no elaboration) or they can breed with any other dragon on the site and isn't that unique(its not). I will stop arguing 'Gen1s shouldn't have the bolded symbol' line. However, this does not change the fact that I want this turned off or turned down at least for my dragons.

Edit: I am changing this last paragraph since was only meant to be a wrap up and I have additional solutions that others have come up with or helped me come up with.

Solutions
Toggle option. Let me choose to toggle off. This would effect people viewing my lair/Hibden as well since I do not want anyone else to view any dragon more special then others without a mark from me personally. Default would remain red bold so again Gen1 community remains unaffected.

Make the speciality symbol actually mean something. Have to where any dragon that can breed with any other dragon on the site have a bold red symbol. Including those that are gen2+ but all relations are exalted. Gen 1s that have been bred will then lose their bold red unless all children get exalted. This would actually help me as a breeder and the Gen1 collectors are unaffected.

Have to where any dragon that can breed with any other dragon on the site have a bold red symbol. Including those that are gen2+ but all relations are exalted. Gen 1s that have been bred will then lose their bold red unless all children get exalted. This would actually help me as a breeder and the Gen1 collectors are unaffected. I still like this idea because as a breeder it would be of some use to me, but slashed because toggle has replaced this as primary solution, and I know anyone that posts after this will only comment on this one thing if I don't so

Take off red and keep bold. Take off red and italicize it. Edit: I am still leaving this because I will stand by that the red is too obnoxious. bolding or italicized would still would separate it from dragons with First and Generation for their parents.

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I personally don't want to have it changed. Because how it is displayed currently makes it easier for me to notice a dragon is gen1 in the first place, mainly in lairs. If it was changed to be unbolded black text or parents listed as unknown, it would definitely make my dyslexic brain read it as a not-gen1 dragon.

I also don't see this clear distinction as something that makes gen1 dragons special. Because the speciality and status symbol ideas purely just come from players, not from how parents are displayed.
I personally don't want to have it changed. Because how it is displayed currently makes it easier for me to notice a dragon is gen1 in the first place, mainly in lairs. If it was changed to be unbolded black text or parents listed as unknown, it would definitely make my dyslexic brain read it as a not-gen1 dragon.

I also don't see this clear distinction as something that makes gen1 dragons special. Because the speciality and status symbol ideas purely just come from players, not from how parents are displayed.
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I don't want it changed personally. It makes them much easier to find which can be helpful if that's what you're looking for for any reason.
I don't want it changed personally. It makes them much easier to find which can be helpful if that's what you're looking for for any reason.
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No support. [quote]My First Generation dragons are no better then the not Gen 1s so why do they have this strange little status symbol?[/quote] It isn't that they're better. It's that they're [b][i]different[/i][/b], and this is an easy way to discern that first gens are different than g2+ at a glance. Personally, I feel the bolding is necessary to differentiate at a glance, while the reddish color is a small addition. [quote]The only thing I could think this was for is a warning to new players that the dragon is special/possibly expensive but that is a weird player market not a site sectioned decision.[/quote] The dragon IS special. It is a gen one. While that doesn't necessarily mean it is valuable, it is different (and site sanctioned, as FR is the one who made the distinction in showing the visibility of a first gen). [quote]Although I would rather it say Unknown/Unknown for the parents to match the other dragons and these dragons don't have No parents, just parents we don't know about but that I know would be unpopular so that is not part of this request [/quote] While this isn't included in the suggestion, the reason this wouldn't be popular is because people can simply name dragons Unknown, which would trick many into thinking it's a first gen when it's not. There was a lot of controversy before the new AH when people would name dragons FirstGenOne and then they wouldn't actually be G1.
No support.


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My First Generation dragons are no better then the not Gen 1s so why do they have this strange little status symbol?
It isn't that they're better. It's that they're different, and this is an easy way to discern that first gens are different than g2+ at a glance.

Personally, I feel the bolding is necessary to differentiate at a glance, while the reddish color is a small addition.


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The only thing I could think this was for is a warning to new players that the dragon is special/possibly expensive but that is a weird player market not a site sectioned decision.
The dragon IS special. It is a gen one. While that doesn't necessarily mean it is valuable, it is different (and site sanctioned, as FR is the one who made the distinction in showing the visibility of a first gen).


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Although I would rather it say Unknown/Unknown for the parents to match the other dragons and these dragons don't have No parents, just parents we don't know about but that I know would be unpopular so that is not part of this request
While this isn't included in the suggestion, the reason this wouldn't be popular is because people can simply name dragons Unknown, which would trick many into thinking it's a first gen when it's not. There was a lot of controversy before the new AH when people would name dragons FirstGenOne and then they wouldn't actually be G1.
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[quote name="Grune" date="2021-06-07 20:58:26" ] [quote]My First Generation dragons are no better then the not Gen 1s so why do they have this strange little status symbol?[/quote] It isn't that they're better. It's that they're [b][i]different[/i][/b], and this is an easy way to discern that first gens are different than g2+ at a glance. Personally, I feel the bolding is necessary to differentiate at a glance, while the reddish color is a small addition.[/quote] There is a functional difference between a gen 1 and a dragon that was bred for, in that before they are bred a gen 1 can be bred to any other dragon of the opposite gender while a dragon that has been bred for cannot breed to dragons related to it within 5 generations so the breeding pool is more limited
Grune wrote on 2021-06-07 20:58:26:
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My First Generation dragons are no better then the not Gen 1s so why do they have this strange little status symbol?
It isn't that they're better. It's that they're different, and this is an easy way to discern that first gens are different than g2+ at a glance.

Personally, I feel the bolding is necessary to differentiate at a glance, while the reddish color is a small addition.
There is a functional difference between a gen 1 and a dragon that was bred for, in that before they are bred a gen 1 can be bred to any other dragon of the opposite gender while a dragon that has been bred for cannot breed to dragons related to it within 5 generations so the breeding pool is more limited
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I don't want to see it changed. The bold font grabbing my attention is exactly what I want when I'm looking through sales tabs.
I don't want to see it changed. The bold font grabbing my attention is exactly what I want when I'm looking through sales tabs.
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No support. Not even a little bit. That's an important functional distinction for a dragon which has no connections/relation to any other dragons until it's bred.
That bold and bit of color make it much easier to see if a dragon is a g1 even on small screens where the text is tiny.
No support. Not even a little bit. That's an important functional distinction for a dragon which has no connections/relation to any other dragons until it's bred.
That bold and bit of color make it much easier to see if a dragon is a g1 even on small screens where the text is tiny.
No support.

I'd imagine the bolded font is intended to draw the player's eye so that they notice the dragon is different from a non-G1, in which case, it's doing its job exactly as designed. Changing the parents to "Unknown/Unknown" or anything like that would cause confusion and entice scammers to name their parents whatever the word was (ie. "None, Unnamed, etc.) to sell fake G1s. I could maybe support the words "First Generation" being changed to a single "None" so that it matches what is on a G1's profile (and no dragon can have a single parent so it'd be harder for scammers to duplicate) but considering "First Generation" is far more descriptive at a glance, I personally prefer that.
No support.

I'd imagine the bolded font is intended to draw the player's eye so that they notice the dragon is different from a non-G1, in which case, it's doing its job exactly as designed. Changing the parents to "Unknown/Unknown" or anything like that would cause confusion and entice scammers to name their parents whatever the word was (ie. "None, Unnamed, etc.) to sell fake G1s. I could maybe support the words "First Generation" being changed to a single "None" so that it matches what is on a G1's profile (and no dragon can have a single parent so it'd be harder for scammers to duplicate) but considering "First Generation" is far more descriptive at a glance, I personally prefer that.
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No support. I totally get why it irritates you, but personally, as a g1 collector, I like that it's bold and wouldn't like to see it changed. G1 dragons are different in that they're breedable with every other (opposite sex) dragon on the site, even if most collectors don't breed them at all. It's not necessarily a value thing, since being a g1 doesn't automatically make a horrifically colored dragon worth more than fodder price.
No support. I totally get why it irritates you, but personally, as a g1 collector, I like that it's bold and wouldn't like to see it changed. G1 dragons are different in that they're breedable with every other (opposite sex) dragon on the site, even if most collectors don't breed them at all. It's not necessarily a value thing, since being a g1 doesn't automatically make a horrifically colored dragon worth more than fodder price.
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It's bold text. It hasn't bothered me, I can't think of any way it would be an accessibility issue, changing it at this point will just be confusing.

Also I'd hardly call that a status symbol..? I'm very sorry to be rude but that's a bit of a reach
It's bold text. It hasn't bothered me, I can't think of any way it would be an accessibility issue, changing it at this point will just be confusing.

Also I'd hardly call that a status symbol..? I'm very sorry to be rude but that's a bit of a reach
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