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TOPIC | Ease of Use Scry morphology?hurts my arm
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Hiya, I'm someone who's been having trouble with some features on FR due to a permanent arm injury, but I can't figure out a way to suggest an improvement for ease of life for the feature. The uh, Predict Morphology feature hurts my arm so very much, but I don't know how one would improve it so that it hurts less to use. So I can't make a good suggestion.

I can only vaguely think it'd be nice if the colors and genes could auto-update as its scrolled through, as I wouldn't have to click so many things. The clicking is what really hurts a lot, and I have to take a lot of breaks if i am trying to figure out a cool new dragon/pair I'd want to plan.
Hiya, I'm someone who's been having trouble with some features on FR due to a permanent arm injury, but I can't figure out a way to suggest an improvement for ease of life for the feature. The uh, Predict Morphology feature hurts my arm so very much, but I don't know how one would improve it so that it hurts less to use. So I can't make a good suggestion.

I can only vaguely think it'd be nice if the colors and genes could auto-update as its scrolled through, as I wouldn't have to click so many things. The clicking is what really hurts a lot, and I have to take a lot of breaks if i am trying to figure out a cool new dragon/pair I'd want to plan.
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i can only say that the idea you suggested is not a good idea. it would cause massive stress for servers since updating the scry requires generating an dragon image. scrolling through the color options would mean generating dozens of dragon images from scratch in very short time span. this is not only extremely heavy for flight rising, but also heavy for user end as well. it would cause tons of issues with slower internet or less powerful devices.

there might be better options for making it more accessible, but this is not a good way for it.
i can only say that the idea you suggested is not a good idea. it would cause massive stress for servers since updating the scry requires generating an dragon image. scrolling through the color options would mean generating dozens of dragon images from scratch in very short time span. this is not only extremely heavy for flight rising, but also heavy for user end as well. it would cause tons of issues with slower internet or less powerful devices.

there might be better options for making it more accessible, but this is not a good way for it.
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You can use keyboard commands on the scry workshop. Arrow keys to select and tab to change dropdowns.

You can use keyboard commands on the scry workshop. Arrow keys to select and tab to change dropdowns.

I'm not sure how the scrying workshop could be altered to use less clicks outside of auto updating either, but I can offer some suggestions to help you work around this!

If you have a mobile device, you could try using that to scry;

Or, you can use the mouse/trackpad with your other arm - It takes a little bit to get used to but it's much easier to get used to using a mouse with your non-dominant hand than it seems!



Auto-updating the scry could also be an optional accessibility feature - I know I wouldn't use it because I often change many parts of my scry at once, so if it's tucked away in accessibility options I'm sure it wouldn't generate many problems.

It strikes me that images are constantly updating when selecting apparel / in the dressing room - They auto-update then, so would there really be that big of an issue adding auto-update to the scrying workshop as an option?
I'm not sure how the scrying workshop could be altered to use less clicks outside of auto updating either, but I can offer some suggestions to help you work around this!

If you have a mobile device, you could try using that to scry;

Or, you can use the mouse/trackpad with your other arm - It takes a little bit to get used to but it's much easier to get used to using a mouse with your non-dominant hand than it seems!



Auto-updating the scry could also be an optional accessibility feature - I know I wouldn't use it because I often change many parts of my scry at once, so if it's tucked away in accessibility options I'm sure it wouldn't generate many problems.

It strikes me that images are constantly updating when selecting apparel / in the dressing room - They auto-update then, so would there really be that big of an issue adding auto-update to the scrying workshop as an option?
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I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it.
I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it.
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[quote name="SpookyPuptarts" date="2021-09-14 14:39:55" ] If you have a mobile device, you could try using that to scry; ... Auto-updating the scry could also be an optional accessibility feature - I know I wouldn't use it because I often change many parts of my scry at once, so if it's tucked away in accessibility options I'm sure it wouldn't generate many problems. It strikes me that images are constantly updating when selecting apparel / in the dressing room - They auto-update then, so would there really be that big of an issue adding auto-update to the scrying workshop as an option? [/quote] I would like to use the mobile version, but the mobile version only shows text for the color area and not the actual visual color so it's really hard for me to pick out what it is I'm looking for compared to the desktop version. Mobile would help ease that a bit more if it showed the visuals for color. Also thank you for mentioning the clothing. I didn't even think about how clothing does in fact automatically showcase what it is once you pick it.
SpookyPuptarts wrote on 2021-09-14 14:39:55:

If you have a mobile device, you could try using that to scry;

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Auto-updating the scry could also be an optional accessibility feature - I know I wouldn't use it because I often change many parts of my scry at once, so if it's tucked away in accessibility options I'm sure it wouldn't generate many problems.

It strikes me that images are constantly updating when selecting apparel / in the dressing room - They auto-update then, so would there really be that big of an issue adding auto-update to the scrying workshop as an option?

I would like to use the mobile version, but the mobile version only shows text for the color area and not the actual visual color so it's really hard for me to pick out what it is I'm looking for compared to the desktop version. Mobile would help ease that a bit more if it showed the visuals for color.

Also thank you for mentioning the clothing. I didn't even think about how clothing does in fact automatically showcase what it is once you pick it.
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[quote name="PersimmonBird" date="2021-09-14 14:31:37" ] You can use keyboard commands on the scry workshop. Arrow keys to select and tab to change dropdowns. [/quote] Keyboard is something I have tried but I am still clicking a whole lot with the keys on keyboard as well so it doesn't really help too much. Thank you for the suggestion though.
PersimmonBird wrote on 2021-09-14 14:31:37:
You can use keyboard commands on the scry workshop. Arrow keys to select and tab to change dropdowns.

Keyboard is something I have tried but I am still clicking a whole lot with the keys on keyboard as well so it doesn't really help too much. Thank you for the suggestion though.
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[quote name="Niceless" date="2021-09-14 20:16:30" ] I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it. [/quote] I don't know if you realize what you wrote is kind of awful, but I just want to let you know that this is a horrific statement to be said to me or someone with a medical issue in general trying to find a solution to a problem one is having. Because a small amount of a population has trouble it shouldn't be addressed is a little frustrating to be told. I'm just trying to find a solution or create an open prompt for others who might know of a better solution to help me and people who also may have trouble with the same problem so we can play the game I like so much a little better. I'm a little upset, but I don't think you meant it on purpose in the way you said it.
Niceless wrote on 2021-09-14 20:16:30:
I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it.

I don't know if you realize what you wrote is kind of awful, but I just want to let you know that this is a horrific statement to be said to me or someone with a medical issue in general trying to find a solution to a problem one is having. Because a small amount of a population has trouble it shouldn't be addressed is a little frustrating to be told. I'm just trying to find a solution or create an open prompt for others who might know of a better solution to help me and people who also may have trouble with the same problem so we can play the game I like so much a little better.

I'm a little upset, but I don't think you meant it on purpose in the way you said it.
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[quote name="Uluri" date="2021-09-15 08:19:20" ] [quote name="Niceless" date="2021-09-14 20:16:30" ] I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it. [/quote] I don't know if you realize what you wrote is kind of awful, but I just want to let you know that this is a horrific statement to be said to me or someone with a medical issue in general trying to find a solution to a problem one is having. Because a small amount of a population has trouble it shouldn't be addressed is a little frustrating to be told. I'm just trying to find a solution or create an open prompt for others who might know of a better solution to help me and people who also may have trouble with the same problem so we can play the game I like so much a little better. I'm a little upset, but I don't think you meant it on purpose in the way you said it. [/quote] You seem to have interpreted this as 'it's not many people so it's not worth doing anything' but I don't think the two sections are meant to be taken separately. The thing with high server load is that it damages site function for everyone, including those already having issues. It's why we don't have 'Relist All' in the AH - because there's a high risk it would render the AH unusable for most players. It doesn't read to me as an attack on you or anyone else with medical issues - it's 'this specific suggestion would cause problems for the site that are unlikely to judged viable for a small subset of users' - though I'd say that extends to large subsets as well. It would take a [i]huge and near-universal[/i] improvement for 'site function doesn't work very well' to be a reasonable tradeoff. It doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives that could provide the necessary balance, but responders aren't obliged to come up with them.
Uluri wrote on 2021-09-15 08:19:20:
Niceless wrote on 2021-09-14 20:16:30:
I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it.

I don't know if you realize what you wrote is kind of awful, but I just want to let you know that this is a horrific statement to be said to me or someone with a medical issue in general trying to find a solution to a problem one is having. Because a small amount of a population has trouble it shouldn't be addressed is a little frustrating to be told. I'm just trying to find a solution or create an open prompt for others who might know of a better solution to help me and people who also may have trouble with the same problem so we can play the game I like so much a little better.

I'm a little upset, but I don't think you meant it on purpose in the way you said it.

You seem to have interpreted this as 'it's not many people so it's not worth doing anything' but I don't think the two sections are meant to be taken separately. The thing with high server load is that it damages site function for everyone, including those already having issues. It's why we don't have 'Relist All' in the AH - because there's a high risk it would render the AH unusable for most players.

It doesn't read to me as an attack on you or anyone else with medical issues - it's 'this specific suggestion would cause problems for the site that are unlikely to judged viable for a small subset of users' - though I'd say that extends to large subsets as well. It would take a huge and near-universal improvement for 'site function doesn't work very well' to be a reasonable tradeoff.

It doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives that could provide the necessary balance, but responders aren't obliged to come up with them.
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[quote name="Vendrus" date="2021-09-15 08:33:43" ] [quote name="Uluri" date="2021-09-15 08:19:20" ] [quote name="Niceless" date="2021-09-14 20:16:30" ] I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it. [/quote] I don't know if you realize what you wrote is kind of awful, but I just want to let you know that this is a horrific statement to be said to me or someone with a medical issue in general trying to find a solution to a problem one is having. Because a small amount of a population has trouble it shouldn't be addressed is a little frustrating to be told. I'm just trying to find a solution or create an open prompt for others who might know of a better solution to help me and people who also may have trouble with the same problem so we can play the game I like so much a little better. I'm a little upset, but I don't think you meant it on purpose in the way you said it. [/quote] You seem to have interpreted this as 'it's not many people so it's not worth doing anything' but I don't think the two sections are meant to be taken separately. The thing with high server load is that it damages site function for everyone, including those already having issues. It's why we don't have 'Relist All' in the AH - because there's a high risk it would render the AH unusable for most players. It doesn't read to me as an attack on you or anyone else with medical issues - it's 'this specific suggestion would cause problems for the site that are unlikely to judged viable for a small subset of users' - though I'd say that extends to large subsets as well. It would take a [i]huge and near-universal[/i] improvement for 'site function doesn't work very well' to be a reasonable tradeoff. It doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives that could provide the necessary balance, but responders aren't obliged to come up with them. [/quote] OP's quote initially kind of scared me, but yes, I absolutely in [i]no[/i] way meant that this [i]shouldn't[/i] be added. I was simply trying to note that it was unlikely to be added as a result of hand injuries being an uncommon occurrence. In a game with tens of thousands of players, one player having a very specific problem usually isn't going to spark enough discussion or merit to make said update a very high priority. I absolutely support advocating for various ailments on the game, like sight issues (coli captchas) and phobias (the problems that came up with multigaze and plague primal), and of course I support advocations for tendonitis, arthritis and otherwise. My only intent was to point out the more realistic outcome of this suggestion, and I'm very sorry for upsetting you.
Vendrus wrote on 2021-09-15 08:33:43:
Uluri wrote on 2021-09-15 08:19:20:
Niceless wrote on 2021-09-14 20:16:30:
I have a neutral opinion on this, but as stated above it would be challenging to have an auto-update feature in terms of server load. Plus, since not many people would have this issue, I don't think any changes are going to be made for it.

I don't know if you realize what you wrote is kind of awful, but I just want to let you know that this is a horrific statement to be said to me or someone with a medical issue in general trying to find a solution to a problem one is having. Because a small amount of a population has trouble it shouldn't be addressed is a little frustrating to be told. I'm just trying to find a solution or create an open prompt for others who might know of a better solution to help me and people who also may have trouble with the same problem so we can play the game I like so much a little better.

I'm a little upset, but I don't think you meant it on purpose in the way you said it.

You seem to have interpreted this as 'it's not many people so it's not worth doing anything' but I don't think the two sections are meant to be taken separately. The thing with high server load is that it damages site function for everyone, including those already having issues. It's why we don't have 'Relist All' in the AH - because there's a high risk it would render the AH unusable for most players.

It doesn't read to me as an attack on you or anyone else with medical issues - it's 'this specific suggestion would cause problems for the site that are unlikely to judged viable for a small subset of users' - though I'd say that extends to large subsets as well. It would take a huge and near-universal improvement for 'site function doesn't work very well' to be a reasonable tradeoff.

It doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives that could provide the necessary balance, but responders aren't obliged to come up with them.
OP's quote initially kind of scared me, but yes, I absolutely in no way meant that this shouldn't be added. I was simply trying to note that it was unlikely to be added as a result of hand injuries being an uncommon occurrence. In a game with tens of thousands of players, one player having a very specific problem usually isn't going to spark enough discussion or merit to make said update a very high priority.

I absolutely support advocating for various ailments on the game, like sight issues (coli captchas) and phobias (the problems that came up with multigaze and plague primal), and of course I support advocations for tendonitis, arthritis and otherwise. My only intent was to point out the more realistic outcome of this suggestion, and I'm very sorry for upsetting you.
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